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The working hours and regime in this factory is atrocious. This just reminded me of the article in Evening Standard, http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/stand...lth-divide-poor-now-slaves-to-londons-rich.do, saying that in London there is the biggest gap between rich and poor that in any western world country. Well even if that story was exagerated, still truth is that cost of life is going up and pays are not following it. Who are the poor peolpe and who are the rich? How are they paid? For example Tesco - how much they pay person on checkout till? Shelf fillers? Something like £6/hour. How can they expect people to afford anything with that? Then how much are people in managerial level paid there? And people at the top? How big bonuses they get? And then it is easy to write articles about far away country like China while the same is happening here.

 

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...if the report can be believed. The reporter's credibility regarding the picture has already been called into question.

It's what the job is worth. It requires exactly zero mental skill and low amounts of physical labor. If they want to make more, they should switch jobs.

And for the record, £6/hour is far more than they make over here in the US as a cashier/stocker.

They're not rolling in riches, I can promise you that. My father worked at and managed a grocery store for 40 years, and we weren't well off.

It is obvious that you have no clue about what things are like in China. You have no idea how good we have it in our countries.

I just shake my head in amazement at your rant as you attempt to spread misinformation based on assumption and ignorance. Perhaps you should believe a little less of what the media is trying to feed you.

Sorry, I'm not gonna pull any punches.

 

I'm falling over in shock

Agree with Mike too, I know district management for Albertsons and Walmart and they make squat, you really don't want to know what cashiers make, but what do you expect a job that requires very little effort and even less skill to perform?

 

Eh, sometimes I go a little "easier" (and, believe it or not, sometimes I click X before my post sees the light of day). However, I admit that my last post was notably harsher than most of my others. I was simply astounded at the conjecture being spewed, and I couldn't let it stand unchallenged. I apologize only for my harsh tone, but not for the truth behind my words.

 

Mike
you have a funny way of seeing things
this was one of the posts I 'wasn't' giving you **** about ;)

 

I think you picked a poor example for your point. As far as I am aware Tesco have a reputation for paying well and are a good employer to work for.

 

I dont know the facts about the factory in China. I can tell you my wife come's from the Philippines and she use to work for a Japanese employer making mobile phone parts in her factory. Her hours where 6am to 6pm Monday to Saturday with sometimes Sunday 6am to 2pm. The pay she got worked out to be about £150 per month.

Out of this she paid rent, food and everything else, as she had such a good job she even paid for her younger sister to go to college.

 

First thing I thought as well.

Wish I could get away with it, hey dues, too much WoW last night, gonna crash for a hour or so, work late after the customers have stopped bugging us on the phone. A swift bootie up me rear is what I'd get methinks.

 

I think that some people here missed my point. I know that these operational level jobs require low skills so the pay is very low. My problem here is that such a low pay is lower than it should be because people on that money probably would have to buy essential things like food with credit card. So go in debt because of just maintaining life. That is not right at all. And if in some other countries that pay is even lower, doesn't make it more right here, right?
Other problem is that there are people with disabilities and they won't be able to go to jobs that require more skills and higher pay. I saw quite aged people working there not just students or alike.
I am trying to say that everyone should be allowed to have decent standard and not to have to beg for benefits because of low income. Or to share house with 10 people. So if rich companies with huge profits share their wealth just on top level why can't lower levels get bigger slice of cake?
And Toasty, I don't know did you try to say that your wife had super job in that facric working 6am - 6pm because she could afford basic things like roof over her head and EVEN college for her sister. My thoughts on that is that she worked 12 hours per day. She could only work and sleep living like that and then she was able to get basics in her life. That is horrible! Western company taking advantage of poverty there and making people work long hours and giving them better life? So not right.
And then not having working places in their own countries...

 

But they are not brought up in the same way as us Westerners are. You have to recognise the fact that their 'culture' is different! Why do think that Eastern EU folk i.e. Poles, come here (to the UK) and gladly do the jobs that the native population won't do? Because their culture is fair different to ours and I suspect that just 'working' comes first before everything else such as a career! It's the same in China...they live to work...without work they are nothing! The key term here is 'Communism'...and that influence still lingers on in Eastern EU countries as it is in China! The state in China provides everything...all the population need to do is 'work'. They know nothing else as 'work' is their family.

 

People who come to UK from economical reasons they want to take any job because they can't find any job in their own country. If we take Poles as an example, you have people from all walks of life who come here - some would be highly skilled professionals (there is even visa for that category of people) so you won't really find Poles just as builders, cleaners, waiters, cab drivers...
On the other side lots of Poles and in general foreign people would be with all sorts of qualifications and ambitions who wanted to acheve their career here because in their own country they can't. It is not Poles culture to just work and be quiet and to do anything hapily. I know a lot people from different countries and among them some Poles. If they have some job in restaurant they do that only because they are still students or they hope to find something better.
It is really wrong picture of culture of Poland and Polish people.
About China I don't know, but as a human beeing nobody likes to be treated as sh** and do bad jobs nobody wants - and those Chineese people are living like that. And then why so many Chineese people leave their country to go and live i wastern countries? Because they have more freedom there. They have to work and live like they do because there is nothing else.

 

So, is it clear?

 

Looks like I couoldn't find nice person here to discuss some things. Well I will leave you to it. I am not going to play games with pictures and read insults esspecially from B.M. I couldn't care less really. Waste of time for me.

 

Yeah, I saw you agreed with me. But I thought your "falling over in shock" comment was pretty funny... and right on the money, I must admit.

 

I have no need or desire to insult you; I simply point out the flaws in your logic. Your own posts tell us everything we need to know about the amount of knowledge you have about economics, world politics, and in particular, the state of affairs in China.

This is about the only thing I agree with in your posts in this thread. And despite your lack of knowledge regarding the subject, you continue to post.

 

Yep! Spot on!