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The bet is on....

Discussion in 'Linux / Unix Discussion' started by ffreeloader, Nov 23, 2007.

  1. ffreeloader

    ffreeloader Terabyte Poster

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    In the links that follow you will find a thread in the Ubuntu forums about a bet between an Ubuntu user and his buddy, a Windows user, that the Windows user can find that anything he does on Windows he can do on Ubuntu. The outcome of this bet is a laptop for the winner which will be purchased by the loser.

    The story starts in the Ubuntu forums and has attracted so much traffic and so much interest the thread has been closed and the story has been moved to a blog by the name of this thread. The last I looked there hasn't been much written about what's been going on lately on the blog, but there are a few reader comments there. Most of the reading is still to be done in the Ubuntu forums link.

    The Ubuntu Forums

    the bet is on blogspt
     
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  2. zebulebu

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    Ummm... Play a game using DirectX?

    Where do i sign up for the laptop?
     
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  3. Phoenix
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    Play Crysis with over 100 frames per second
    in DX10 with all settings to HIGH!

    ;)
     
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  4. Bluerinse
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    I am here because of a bet I have with a friend. This is the deal: I have to use Ubuntu for 30 days. IF there is anything I can’t do on Ubuntu (except for games which he reluctantly conceded is Microsoft turf) that I can do on Vista, then I get a brand new laptop courtesy of my buddy. IF on the other hand, I lose, I have to pay for his new laptop.

    First line in the forum post guys :rolleyes:
     
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  5. Phoenix
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    well no body said I followed the link
    haha
     
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  6. ffreeloader

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    LOL. Yeah, it's usually a good idea to at least a read a few lines from the links posted before making snarky comments....
    :biggrin
     
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  7. zebulebu

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    LOL - ditto (obviously)!
     
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  8. Node

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    Just got a feeling that the window guy will win 8)
     
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  9. JohnBradbury

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    1. Create a wmi image of the entire drive and restore in five minutes? [I don't believe this feature is available in Ubuntu 7.10]
    2. Setup parental controls to stop your teenage kids surfing porn :D
    3. Have a video for you wallpaper [trivial I know but I'd want that laptop]
    4. Support out of the box for Tablet PC features
    5. Lockdown features of the OS using a powerful GPO type util [GUI interface]
    6. Out of the box data encryption [EFS]
    7. Native DVD/MPEG-2 support
    8. Lovely digital rights management, lol

    As far as I know these features are not standard to Ubuntu.
     
  10. ffreeloader

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    All you guys keep looking for ways to win the bet at any costs. This guy is going to see if he can do everything he normally does on his Windows machine on Ubuntu for a month, sans games. However, that's beside the point. Take a look at the following. What John here is so positive doesn't exist in Linux, Linux either has no need for because there is no equivalent in Linux, or Linux has had these capabilities for quite a while. Disk imaging in Unix has been around longer than Windows has existed. Compiz/beryl has been around for at least a couple of years.

    Why would you need, or even want, a wmi backup of a linux OS? There is no equivalent of WMI in Linux so that's as, sorry, dumb of an idea, as I've seen for a while. You can image a drive with dd, partimage, Amanda, etc... in Linux. There's a lot of tools for imaging drives in Linux.

    You can filter content with several tools available in Ubuntu, such as DansGuardian which is available as a software package in Ubuntu.

    Also, just about any desktop special effect you can think of is available in compiz/beryl. Compiz/beryl eye candy simply blows away what is available on Windows. It makes Aero look amateurish, and holds up very well to Apple's desktop.

    Here's a youtube video of a Linux machine with video. Why anyone would want that for a desktop is beyond me, but the capability is there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKWmp5meFac

    I don't know what most of you think Linux isn't, but it clearly isn't what you guys seem to think it is. You guys are at least a year or two behind, and at the speed of open source development, that's generations behind. I know MS development takes a few years to give even fractional increases in product quality and very little new technology, but don't judge Linux by what MS does. There is simply no comparison.

    Open source developers don't have to keep on reinventing the wheel every time one of them decides to work on something. The open source developers just keep building on each other's ideas and improvements so the speed of improvement in open source software is exponentially faster than in proprietary software.
     
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  11. zebulebu

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    1. Drive Image
    2. Dans Guardian
    3. XWinWrap - Demo found on YouLube
    4. Linux on a Tablet PC
    5. Pessulus
    6. Encryption
    7. Seveas
    8. LOL

    Don't think there's anything in the bet which says owt about it all having to be done 'out of the box'. Far be it from me to stick up for one of Freddy's 'Microsoft is evil - Linux is good' posts, but you'll have to try harder than the above.
     
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  12. ffreeloader

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  13. nicolinux

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    Please don't forget squid and squidguard.
    And i would add "kate" the best editor for scripting.
    And i would add iptables (brilliant fun).
    And i would add wireshark or ethereal.
    And i would add cups.
    And i would add apache.
    And i would add vsftp
    And i would add ......

    Just install Linux, have a wee go and see.
    I think both Linux and Windows have their good and bad point. A smart person knows when to use Linux
    and when to use Windows.
    I think has not sense the discussion about which OS is the best.
    Ciao
     
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  14. JohnBradbury

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    Seriously though I've had a quick dabble with Ubuntu and I have to admit I like it. I wasn't trying to put down Linux at all. In fact as I've pointed out in previous posts I think the development behind Linux puts Microsoft Vista to shame.

    My point with disk imaging is still valid though. I didn't expect Linux to support WMI images, that's not what I said. I simply meant a disk imaging function. Again I know Linux has various options for this and I've trying a fair few, not one even came close to being user friendly.

    I admit I did take some artistic license with the idea of "out of the box" but in this context most of my points remain valid.
     

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