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Study Time and n+/mcse question

Discussion in 'Training & Development' started by hippy, Aug 19, 2007.

  1. hippy

    hippy Kilobyte Poster

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    Study Time:

    How much time do people here spend on certifications in a given week or month?

    n+/mcse:

    If im going to do the mcse is it worth while to do the n+ certification? I was thinking maybe the 70-291 covers all the n+ things anyway. Its not the case of that i know nothing about networks, but is it worth my time after mcse to add it to the list?

    Thanks
     
  2. rax

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    First reply!

    Most users on this forum will recommend starting with A+ part of MCSE and then doing the N+ before moving on I think. Having N+ helps build a good foundation to start from.
     
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  3. hippy

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    Ive done parts 3 + 4 of the CCNA academy course and the wireless specialist one (got 96% on the end exam :D)... i changed my degree too late so i couldnt do the first part of the ccna and so couldnt do the real certification exams for ccna part 2 or wireless (need to pass ccna before you can do the exam). Got to love uni :D.

    A+ would be a waste for me.

    Im just making a rough timetable to follow :). It would consist of:
    1 hour gym
    1 hour mandarin
    2 hour study

    then all the other stuff :D (including working during the day)

    or around about that.
     
  4. rax

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    Ah ok then :)


    p.s. 1 hour in the gym is not a lot :eek: (unless cardio only....)
     
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  5. hippy

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    1 hour a day :oops: mostly cardio
     
  6. rax

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    I'm just messing with ya mate :twisted:

    It's good that you attend the gym at all anyway and to do cardio, I think, requires a lot more drive than just pumping iron like me. I'm rather poor in the cardio section :oops:
     
    Certifications: ITIL v3 Foundation, CompTIA Network+
  7. rax

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    Ugh btw, if you plan to do MCSE, isn't A+ the first certificate ? Just wondering when you said doing A+ is a waste of time for you :blink
     
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  8. hippy

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    Well ive given up smoking and realised im as health as a jam donnut... I paid a year membership to force me to go lol.
     
  9. dmarsh

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    Yeah I've paid couple years gym membership, fitness hasn't improved yet, but then maybe I should actually turn up ? :oops:
     
    Certifications: CITP, BSc, HND, SCJP, SCJD, SCWCD, SCBCD, SCEA, N+, Sec+, Proj+, Server+, Linux+, MCTS, MCPD, MCSA, MCITP, CCDH
  10. rax

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    Nice one, congratulations is in oder!

    I believe giving up smoking is very very hard so much respect mate :D

    I've never tried it mainly because I never saw a reason to, makes you smell bad, unhealthy and costs a lot.. lol.
     
    Certifications: ITIL v3 Foundation, CompTIA Network+
  11. hippy

    hippy Kilobyte Poster

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    Nah, you dont need to do the A+ or N+ to do the MCSE. If i remember correctly the N+ can count as one of the modules for an MCSA but not an MCSE.
     
  12. BosonMichael
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    If you have between 0-2 years of IT experience, the A+ is absolutely *not* a waste of time for you.

    If you know everything on Network+, take the exam - what do you have to lose? On the other hand, if there's stuff on Network+ that you don't know, then that's all the more reason to take it, right? :)
     
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  13. rax

    rax Megabyte Poster

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    Nicely put 8)
     
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  14. hippy

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    The a+ wouldnt be relevant for me then.

    What i mean is by word of mouth from other places, if you have done the mcse you dont need to do the n+? Correct this if its wrong as i would like know.

    my rough goal plan, which obviously can change would be:
    1. Microsoft Cert (MCSE)
    2/3. Citrix Cert (CCA)
    2/3. Cisco track (CCNA)
     
  15. BosonMichael
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    The MCSE isn't the same as Network+, so it's useful to get Network+. But the choice to get it or ignore it is up to you... I'd recommend getting it.
     
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  16. Sparky
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    Remember the A+ and Network+ can be used as an elective for the MCSA.

    If you have not started the MCSE yet I would get the A+ and Network+ nailed first. 8)
     
    Certifications: MSc MCSE MCSA:M MCSA:S MCITP:EA MCTS(x5) Security+ Network+ A+
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  17. Bluerinse
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    I got my MCSE without the A+ and Net+. In retrospect i wish i had got those under my belt first as there is a lot of assumed knowledge in Microsoft courses.

    ComTIA's A+ and N+ are vendor neutral, whereas MCSE is specifically Microsoft technology.

    Throughout my entire MCSE courses we never removed the case cover off a computer.

    Whatever you decide, make sure you combine your studies with plenty of hands on, home lab practical work. This is when the real learning occures.
     
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  18. greenbrucelee
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    Listen to Bluerinse and BosonMichael they speak the truth
     
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  19. tripwire45
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    To add just a little more dimension to this. The A+ and Network+ material makes for a really good foundation that you can take in many different directions. As Bluerinse said, the various Microsoft exams assume you know hardware, basic operating system, and network technologies. If you don't, you'll have a harder time making it through.

    Actually, I haven't seen an area of IT that didn't require an understanding of hardware and networking including programmers and database administrators. Don't sell that knowledge short.
     
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  20. Modey

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    I certainly the knowledge gained studying the N+ useful for my MCSA stuides. Especially the Network Infastructure exam.
     
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