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St George's day!

Discussion in 'The Lounge - Off Topic' started by Leehaa, Apr 23, 2007.

  1. Leehaa

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    :eek: Why Is it that Google UK was all jazzed up for St Paddy's day, but today, there is nothing?!?

    Also, government going on about England losing it's identity, but it's not exactly like they encouraging anyone to celebrate days like today Grrr....

    Anyway, Happy St George's day to anyone who is celebrating! :biggrin
     

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  2. Phoenix
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    Because we live in a country where our government and people are scared of our history and heritage, in a continent where national identity is constantly marred by racist overtones, we're a nation of people who just put up with the crap were given

    Sucks to be us..

    Happy St Georges Day to everyone, have an Ale or two for me
     
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  3. zebulebu

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    Ridiculous of people who want to not to celebrate St George's day because of some misguided political correctness. The far right have hijacked it as a day symbolising pure-bred Englishness, whilst the far left demonise the day as representing everything that is bad about Britain (the crusades, oppression of minority races, religious intolerance etc)

    In reality, St George was black for God's sake!

    Personally I don't celebrate it because I don't believe the crusades are exactly England's finest hour...

    I'd love the bank holiday though - we're certainly due an extra few as we currently have the lowest number of Bank Holidays in Europe (not counting the Dutch, who have less working hours per week and get more Annual Leave per year)
     
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  4. Leehaa

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    People take these things way to seriously! In a nutshell: St George was a Roman soldier (for that fact, so was st paddy), who protested against the romans when they were torturing christians...he was a brave man who died for his beliefs...

    Although a lot of people don't know what/ who they are actually celebrating, I think celebrations are actually a good thing in whole - they are a way of uniting people and an excellent excuse to have a bit of fun - celebrating these type of things are a way of keeping your countries history and enjoying its uniqueness. The reason why we are getting so many probs is because people are segregating - if the whole of England celebrated / knew what the day was about, then there'd be no probs...but because we are not allowed to, this is where some extremests rebel, and others become afraid of what is actually just a neat little bit of history...

    I'm certainly no racist - am half black myself - I just believe in people keeping their countries / traditions and like to celebrate what half my ancestors have done for many years...oh, and I love England!! :ohmy am I not allowed to say that? Lol!
     
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  5. Phoenix
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    He was from modern day Turkey, so he might not of been black but he certainly wasn't english
    the sad fact is many other nations hold St George as a Patron and they manage to celebrate him just fine

    we're just messed up :)
     
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  6. wagnerk
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    I've lived in Asia, the U.S., the continent and here in the UK. And I have to say that the nationalism here in the UK is practical non-existant. It seems like everything is always done on the hush and the Government is scared if it promotes anything truly english, it'll insult members of other countries. The UK is suppose to be truly multi-cultural, but only if you're not from here. I really think that that is a real shame. Political correctness has really gone to far. Brits should be proud of their past (ok, there have been some dark patches in the UK's past, but what country doesn't have them), present and the future, without fear of being prosecuted for racist thoughts (however I also understand that there will always be a few "bad apples" and they should be dealt with).

    Oh and by the way I ain't British, before someone pipes up, I'm eurasian (part continental/part asian).

    -ken
     
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    There's apparently some controversy with the cross on the flag as well. It appears the authorities are scared that displaying the flag overtly might hurt people's feelings in the muslim community. Personally, I don't they care very much. I certainly haven't heard anyone complaining about it.
     
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    I've got the biggest flag I could buy out my window, if people dont like it, sod them. If its offensive to muslims or any other religion, I really couldn't care less.

    This is England, and to be honest, it doesnt feel very English anymore.
     
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    Well im celebrating for obvisous reasons! :biggrin :biggrin
     
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  10. Phoenix
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    I think the problems associated with the St George Cross stem from our national sport, no where else on earth have i seen a sport marred with the type of crap that goes on at football matches, no other sport has the associated bad press, the scummy so called 'fans' that only go to matches to cause trouble, the hatred and violent outburts at the result of a bad game
    it truely is pathetic and a tarnish on our country, and the game itself
    you dont see it in any other game, no matter where its played, only in football!
     
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  11. Cockles

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    Unfortunately with Political Correctness a lot of things that have been seen as 'traditional' are done away with 'in case' they offend anyone. That's the funny part of it. There has been no evidence to suggest that anyone has been offended with cerebrating anything that is traditional English culture or seen as Christian. Nonetheless, smart-arse council officials saw fit to do away with celebrating Christmas in some boroughs 'in case' it offended other religions, some schools have seen fit to remove certain items from the lunch menus 'in case' someone is offended. This now extends to the celebrating of the patron saint's day as well as displaying the national flag, which if done is seen as something to shake your head at and tut as you walk past
     
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  12. UCHEEKYMONKEY
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    Funny, the only time I see a St George's flag is when International football is on.:biggrin

    So if people drink Guinness or Murphy's to celebrate St Paddy's day what do English People drink to celebrate St Georges Day?
    Nettle wine?
    Scrumpy?
    John Smith's

    [​IMG]

    Hmmmm Beer:biggrin
     
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  13. Sparky
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    Google should have done something with the Google logo. Earth day was recognised by google the other day....

    http://www.earthday.net/

    :rolleyes:
     
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  14. UCHEEKYMONKEY
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    It's like Cockles said, St George's day is not Politcally correct:(
     
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  15. shaggy

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    I hate all this political correctness rubbish

    i remember last year when it was said to be wrong to call them 'christmas lights', insted they should be referred to as 'winter lights'

    wtf

    i hate to say it, but it makes me slightly...racist for lack of a better word, towards the people that have caused England to be so anti patriotic


    </rant>
     
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  16. Mitzs
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    If they don't like it, let them go back to their homelands then. They are in England for petesake, what would they expect. Its like the mexicans here wanting to change the lang to spanish. By god you came here, we speak english. Learn it or ****ing go back home. Do you know how aggervating it is to call a company and have to waste a min on long distance because I have to sit though the spanish part before they say for english press 1. I better stop and get off my box now before I just make myself mad. Be proud of your country celebrate those you think are worthy of it. Maybe you will start a new trend and things may actually change because of it down the road.
     
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    It's difficult to that, when everything you thought was right is now wrong because of Political Correctness. :(
     
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  18. stuPeas

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    This political correctness and its proponents are killing this country. You are not allowed to smack your kids anymore. Instead you have to pull your 5yr old to the side and explain that if he runs into the road he will be killed. The problem here is that a young kid has no idea of this concept. We already have laws against assault. A little slap on the legs is a good conditioning influence. Lets get it right,.. no-one LIKES to punish kids, but they must learn not only what is good for them, but also that they must do what their parents tell them.

    Oooooh....

    As for celebrating your nationality, I live in Manchester and every year, a whole mile of MAIN road into the city is closed for the celebration of Edee (sorry for spelling). Celebrators hang out of big expensive cars with bottles of beer in their hands, and there is always trouble. Why doesn't the government stop this??? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they should, but to suppress the culture of your own country, and allow others free reign is INTOLERABLE.

    Far from reducing racism, policies like these actually increase it.

    Well, I'm thoroughly wound up now, I think I'll curl up and have a stroke.
     
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  19. UCHEEKYMONKEY
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    Let's face it the English people are push overs.

    All we do is moan about the weather. It's too much effort to get up of our fat backsides and fight for something.8)

    For British Farmers they sell their sheep/stock at the market for 50p. That's how much they get for a whole one. How do i know??
    My Uncles a farmer and struggling to pay the bills.

    How much do you pay for a joint of lamb? or Chops?
    More that 50p. :dry

    Why are we as a country buying more imported food than exporting food?

    It's the same with petrol. If it went up tomorrow to &#163;2.00 would we stop driving our cars and March toward Downing street with pick -axes??

    NO! We would moan about it and do nothing. :x
     
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  20. Cockles

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    I'll give you credit Cheek old lad, you're bang on. Myself and my old man were having this exact same discussion the other day. Think back only a few years when Maggie Thatcher introduced the Poll Tax, what happened then? Everyone took to the streets and went apesh!t until they backed down. That really was an example of people power and having the balls to stand up and do something.

    Problem is though, for a lot of people now it is not in their best interests to do anything like that. Political correctness, prices, everything like that eventually are traced back to the government. However, if a governement has created a society where you can actually earn more sitting on your fat arse doing nothing all day than actually doing a good honest job (of which that number is increasing daily) as well as getting everything paid for you - including free accomodation - then you are going to get a lot less people fighting against it. Essentially, the government has bribed a huge chunk of the country into keeping them in.
     
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