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Discussion in 'Other IT certifications' started by UKDarkstar, Nov 20, 2009.

  1. UKDarkstar
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    UKDarkstar Terabyte Poster

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    We see a lot of new entrants to the CF forums commenting that they'd like to get into security work. Many don't realise that this is a highly sought after area that demands some high levels of technical knowledge combined with years of experience. Currently it is attractive as it is commanding some nice salaries but that may not always be the case.

    My purpose here is to highlight two possible entry level certs to get someone started. No, they're not going to get you into a high paying security job but if you want to show on your CV that you have an interest in this area they may help with that.

    Option 1 - less technical

    ISEB Foundation Certificate in Information Security Management Principles

    Syllabus :

    View attachment ismpsyllabus.pdf

    Reading List :

    View attachment ismp-reading.pdf

    Main text :

    http://www.bcs.org/server.php?show=nav.10004 (you can also find it on Amazon)

    Study - 20 to 24 hours recommended

    Exam - Have to go to BCS offices in London (unfortunately) for multiple choice paper. Cost - TBC


    Option 2 - more technical

    CompTIA Security+

    Much more technical study area

    Current syllabus -

    View attachment Security_Objectives08.pdf

    Reading/study -

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/CompTIA-Sec...UTF8&coliid=I1CKW9T8U023P4&colid=NZZDWXJPISK5

    or -

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0071601236/ref=ox_ya_oh_product

    plus -

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/078973804X/ref=ox_ya_oh_product

    Exam - usual CompTIA via Pearson Vue or Prometric so local testing centre


    I hope the comparison material helps and encourages some of you new to IT to consider both of these certs as a help towards your aim of moving into the world of security.
     
    Certifications: BA (Hons), MBCS, CITP, MInstLM, ITIL v3 Fdn, PTLLS, CELTA
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  2. jk2447

    jk2447 Petabyte Poster Moderator

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    Great stuff mate. As someone who's got the Security+ I think its a great place to start for a budding IT Security Professional. That said I don't recommend it as an entry level cert. I'd advise someone to have worked in IT for roughly 18 months and have had some exposure to IT security used by your employer.
     
    Certifications: BSc (Hons), HND IT, HND Computing, ITIL-F, MBCS CITP, MCP (270,290,291,293,294,298,299,410,411,412) MCTS (401,620,624,652) MCSA:Security, MCSE: Security, Security+, CPTS, VCP4, CCA (XenApp6.5), MCSA 2012, VCP5, VCP6-NV
  3. manyb

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    can someone explain to me the routes to take with IT security.
    my boss wants me to get into it security and wants me to take the cissp or eventually take the cissp. i know you cant go head on it to that cus it hard, thats why my boss recommended the cisco qualifications.

    but other than that thats all i know and i dont know the specific tests to take, i was told to do some research on this but i cant be asked so thats why im posting this.

    any help would be great.

    thanks
     
  4. jk2447

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    (ISC)2 state :

    "CISSP® candidates must meet the following requirements prior to taking the CISSP examination:
    • Have a minimum of five years of direct full-time security professional work experience
    in two or more of the ten domains of the (ISC)2® CISSP CBK®, or four years of direct
    full-time security professional work experience in two or more of the ten domains
    of the CISSP CBK with a college degree. Alternatively there is a one-year waiver of
    the professional experience requirement for holding an additional credential on the
    (ISC)2-approved list.
    • Complete the Candidate Agreement, attesting to the truth of his or her assertions
    regarding professional experience and legally commit to adhere to the (ISC)2 Code of Ethics.
    • Successfully answer four questions regarding criminal history and related background."

    So unless you've worked in IT Security or a role within IT that covers two domains for a number of years you might as well forget this one.

    The Security Analysts I've met do well to have their CCNA.
     
    Certifications: BSc (Hons), HND IT, HND Computing, ITIL-F, MBCS CITP, MCP (270,290,291,293,294,298,299,410,411,412) MCTS (401,620,624,652) MCSA:Security, MCSE: Security, Security+, CPTS, VCP4, CCA (XenApp6.5), MCSA 2012, VCP5, VCP6-NV
  5. UKDarkstar
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    UKDarkstar Terabyte Poster

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    Oh so we should do it for you ?! :twisted:

    Research is something you'd better get used to m8 !

    Here you go :

    http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/le2/le0/le1/learning_certification_type_home.html

    Starting point for Cisco CCNA Security. I'd strongly suggest you look at a good network background plus either (or both) of the certs I mentioned above first !
     
    Last edited: Nov 23, 2009
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    WIP: CMALT (about to submit), DTLLS (on hold until 2012)
  6. LukeP

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    lol, good luck in IT :eek:
     
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  7. Sparky
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    Nice. :rolleyes:
     
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  8. zebulebu

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    Firstly, the phrase is 'can't be arsed, not can't be asked'

    Secondly - You Fail
     
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  9. supernova

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    CISSP also requires you to have a mentor type person as well i believe (like in most highend accounting certification).
     
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  10. Bri1981

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    You can get through the CISSP without being recommended by someone with the cert. You just have to provide the ISC2 with the contact details of your previous employers then they carry out the necessary checks.
    I passed it a few months back and this is what I did.
     
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  11. jk2447

    jk2447 Petabyte Poster Moderator

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    You are my cert role model :) Well if you had your CEH :p :lol:
     
    Certifications: BSc (Hons), HND IT, HND Computing, ITIL-F, MBCS CITP, MCP (270,290,291,293,294,298,299,410,411,412) MCTS (401,620,624,652) MCSA:Security, MCSE: Security, Security+, CPTS, VCP4, CCA (XenApp6.5), MCSA 2012, VCP5, VCP6-NV
  12. Bri1981

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    Its on the list mate! Going to have a crack at the CCNA security in a few weeks then will get round to it.
     
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  13. jk2447

    jk2447 Petabyte Poster Moderator

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    Ha ha exactly what I plan to do after my CCNA! Keep up the good work
     
    Certifications: BSc (Hons), HND IT, HND Computing, ITIL-F, MBCS CITP, MCP (270,290,291,293,294,298,299,410,411,412) MCTS (401,620,624,652) MCSA:Security, MCSE: Security, Security+, CPTS, VCP4, CCA (XenApp6.5), MCSA 2012, VCP5, VCP6-NV
  14. Bri1981

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    Thanks! Same to you as well.
     
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  15. manyb

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    wow it seems like if you dont put a smiley face after your sentence you guys dont know what to think of it.:D

    and arsed or asked can both be used, i guess it all depends on your outlook of life.
     
  16. Sparky
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    Eh?? :biggrin
     
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    WIP: Exchange 2007\2010
  17. jk2447

    jk2447 Petabyte Poster Moderator

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    Sorry to be pedantic but I believe the saying is "your outlook ON life" :biggrin

    See, I put a smiley face on it :D
     
    Certifications: BSc (Hons), HND IT, HND Computing, ITIL-F, MBCS CITP, MCP (270,290,291,293,294,298,299,410,411,412) MCTS (401,620,624,652) MCSA:Security, MCSE: Security, Security+, CPTS, VCP4, CCA (XenApp6.5), MCSA 2012, VCP5, VCP6-NV
  18. UKDarkstar
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    UKDarkstar Terabyte Poster

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    Gee, and another thread goes way off topic :(

    When will people realise they can start a new thread rather than derailing one where someone is trying to provide helpful information ? :(:(:(
     
    Certifications: BA (Hons), MBCS, CITP, MInstLM, ITIL v3 Fdn, PTLLS, CELTA
    WIP: CMALT (about to submit), DTLLS (on hold until 2012)

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