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Discussion in 'General Microsoft Certifications' started by Boycie, Sep 5, 2006.

  1. Boycie
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    Boycie Senior Beer Tester

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    Anywhere know of a good place for an oil change? Only joking!

    MS Press;

    When a service is disabled, you cannot start the service manually, and applications or other services cannot start the service programmatically.

    I take it this means when a service has been disabled by the Operating system, because i have disabled and re-started a service myself.

    Si
     
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  2. Theprof

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    Hey Boyce, from what I understand you want to know what MS Press means exactly by that phrase? if so from what I understand it means that once you disable a service you cannot start it, the only way you can start it is by either setting to manual or automatic.

    Hope this helps
     
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  3. Boycie
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    Boycie Senior Beer Tester

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    Hi Prof,

    That is what i thought from the text, but i can do just that. :blink

    Si
     
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    Boyce,

    I doubt in that case that you disabled it. Are you sure you didn't just stop it?
     
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  5. Boycie
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    Sorry guy's i misunderstood the sentence;

    I can disable and restart a service myself that is currently running, but cannot start a service that is already marked as disabled.

    Si
     
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  6. zebulebu

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    This is typical MS Speak.

    Basically, what they're trying to get at is there are two states a service can be in: Started and Stopped (we won't go into 'Starting' and 'Stopping' as we could be here all night).

    There are three parameters for a service's startup type: Automatic , Manual and Disabled.

    Whilst a service is in 'Disabled' state, without manually going in and setting its startup type to 'Automatic' or 'Manual', you can't start the service using a command line (eg Net Start 'XXXService'), nor can a program start the service if it needs to. This can come in very handy - when troubleshooting spyware for instance - but be warned - there are plenty of ways round this - lots of known exploits have used them in the past to either disable the 'Disabled' option or con you into thinking the service has stopped when it hasn't really.

    There - clear as mud!
     
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  7. Boycie
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    Zeb,

    Thanks for the translation of MS's version- it makes sense. :)

    Si
     
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    Great explanation there zebulebu thanks :thumbleft micrsoft can really be a pain sometimes, I have never felt Comfortable with any Microsoft book and believe me I have got a few.man if only they spoke English :)
     
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  9. Theprof

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    I agree with you guys, I mean sometimes I have to read a sentence over and over again to understand what they mean.
     
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    Hey guys, I was bored at college the other day and sussed the command line to enable a disabled service. we were trying to write a batch file to enable messenger quickly once we had RDP (remote desktop'ed) into the other students' systems.Worked fine.

    sc config is what you need.

    sc config messenger start=demand would start a disabled messenger service and set it to auto, from the command line.

    then of course we used net start messenger which starts the messenger service....and began a bombardment of messages between all student pcs, total timewaster! :D
     
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