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Discussion in 'Software' started by UCHEEKYMONKEY, Jul 20, 2006.

  1. UCHEEKYMONKEY
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    UCHEEKYMONKEY R.I.P - gone but never forgotten. Gold Member

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    Does anyone use RIS disks to setup PC's via network?

    I have to set up 18 PC's via ris but there is no Floppy drive, is it possible to set via cd rom?

    UCM :blink
     
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  2. simongrahamuk
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    simongrahamuk Hmmmmmmm?

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    PXE NIC's should do the job for you.

    As I understand it (don't use RIS), a PXE NIC will automatically find the RIS server, that is if the PC's are configured with the NIC as the first boot device.

    8)
     
  3. UCHEEKYMONKEY
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    Thanks Simon :thumbleft , one other thing is the above for onboard NIC's.

    Only these are old PC's with PCI LAN, will I still be able to use the above to get the mac address to set up the ISP address?
     
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  4. Mr.Cheeks

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    this RIS business... is it like unattended installations or something totally diff?
     
  5. simongrahamuk
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    simongrahamuk Hmmmmmmm?

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    You would have to check that the NIC's are bootable, there are a couple of ways that you could find this out:

    1. Findout what type of NIC's they are and search on the web for info on them.

    2. Check in the PC's BIOS to see if there is an option to boot to network. ( I just thought that this may not work as they are not onboard)

    3. Give them a try, set up a RIS server and see if they connect!

    8)
     
  6. UCHEEKYMONKEY
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    Good advice

    The bios does give you the option to boot from LAN, the old way with ris disk was boot from floppy to find the Mac address so this could be recorded on the web server with it's own ISP address. The reboot with LAN as first boot option and press F12 to boot from network. However, the company has done away with the floppy and relies on the CD-rom.
     
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  7. UCHEEKYMONKEY
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    Not quite, the idea is that every PC station is set up with basic software but all with the same configs rather than setting each PC station up individually.
     
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  8. simongrahamuk
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    Here's a nice little guide / explanation of RIS.

    Ain't Google just great! :biggrin
     
  9. Mr.Cheeks

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    it is, but im a lazy bugger! :biggrin
     
  10. Sparky
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    Have you set up the RIS server yet? Also are you using RISprep images to deploy?

    Questions, questions! :biggrin
     
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  11. UCHEEKYMONKEY
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    Yes the Res server is set up, has been since the dawn of time..or so the network engineer says :biggrin

    ris prep images, mmmm I'm not sure what you mean by that sparky? Can you explain!

    The ris disk software are on 3 Floppy's.

    Something I did come across today at work was some of the new PC had a USB option to boot up! I was quite surprised, because normally you can't get a device to work unless you in windows!?

    Maybe this is the things to come, it would certainly be better than having to rely on floppy or CD roms. If you could ris a PC using a USB stick!

    :hhhmmm
     
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    I started to play around with RIS, and i was supprised that Windows only supports a handful of Nic's mainly 3comm.

    Si
     
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    Risprep images basically have Windows and also other applications included, such as Office.

    I’ve tried to deploy a RIS server but to be honest it was too much hassle and we ended up making a bootable XP CD with office and all the other apps included. Even if the NIC supports a PXE boot it doesn’t always work. It is possible to include drivers for other nics on the boot disc though. :biggrin
     
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  14. UCHEEKYMONKEY
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    Arrh - now that makes sense!

    Thanks Si, for putting me in the picture and yes there are RIS images on the net. 4 images, one for windows the other's for laptops and Dell.
     
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  15. UCHEEKYMONKEY
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    Yes, so I noticed infact some of the old PCI lan cards don't reconise RIS and we have change these to Realtrek 3comm cards. It seem such a waste, but they have been doing this way for years. :(
     
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    Is there a way to make RIS boot disks with a different lan card driver on e.g. a SIS driver on?

    Jack
     
  17. UCHEEKYMONKEY
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    That must take ages to build each PC, do you also have to put on the extra s/w such as AV and adobe etc.

    I'm glad we have RIS because I have to build 8 -12 PC's per day.

    With each one having 10 programs including OS software.

    It's just some of the PC's are without floppy drive, they specially built for the Company and like Dell can only be modified by their engineer. These are the one I have the problem with!

    The other's are old basic ATX style PIII or Celerons
     
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  18. UCHEEKYMONKEY
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    No! because if you use a different LAN card such as SIS it doesn't pick up the RIS. It needs to pick up Riss to get the Mac number so the engineer can set up the ISP address.

    In fact the other day he made a mistake of putting in the wrong Mac number and of course it couldn't find the network!
     
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    Thanks For That UCM :biggrin

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  20. UCHEEKYMONKEY
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    Anytime Mate!

    Are you experimenting with RIS?
     
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