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Retirement of some MTA exams

Discussion in 'General Microsoft Certifications' started by Juelz, Mar 19, 2015.

  1. Juelz

    Juelz Gigabyte Poster

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    A few of the MTA exams are retiring, I did see on various unofficial sites the 98-349 was due to retire but hoped the information was wrong as I think its ridiculous they are retiring the 98-349 exam but apparently its being replaced with another exam which I checked the name of and it linked me to the exam objectives on the MS website so the site listed below probably is a reliable source of information. If you're interested then click the link below.

    http://www.swanseaitec.co.uk/training/technical/microsoft-technical-associate.html

    New exam believed to be replacing the 98-349 : https://www.microsoft.com/learning/en-us/exam-98-368.aspx

    I'm starting college soon and I am doing another course through a provider so will probs not even get a chance to go for the 98-349 as planned, I assumed I would have a good year to go for this cert and as it doesn't appear to be to difficult wasn't to worried.
     
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  2. dmarsh

    dmarsh Terabyte Poster

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    Yep, certs gone mad, somehow a sensible program gets messed up, just shows you the lunatics run the asylum.

    The unfortunate reality is, certification programs are not education programs, they are marketing campaigns. This is why you see core stuff dropped for the flavor of the moment.
     
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  3. jk2447

    jk2447 Petabyte Poster Moderator

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    Can't deny it does seem this way, also change for changes sake at times in my humble opinion....
     
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  4. SimonD

    SimonD Terabyte Poster Moderator

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    It's a money making market for vendors these days, it's also why you see companies no longer offering life time certifications (even CompTIA jumped on that band wagon a couple of years ago).

    In my case if I want to stay current I have to now recertify every two years.
     
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  5. jk2447

    jk2447 Petabyte Poster Moderator

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    I'm not entirely sure I will re certify in some areas. I'm quite happy going into an interview with expired certs to a degree, obviously an NT MCSE or VCP1 isn't worth much, but I'm not convinced any employer would hold it against you, except perhaps the vendors themselves such as Citrix, Microsoft and VMware.
     
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  6. SimonD

    SimonD Terabyte Poster Moderator

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    Well vendors I would expect would be picking up the exam costs anyway.
     
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  7. jk2447

    jk2447 Petabyte Poster Moderator

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    Once you're in but on the interview getting in, I'd imagine, Shinigami may confirm or VMware Scott, that they want only valid certified peeps. Could get awkward if asked why has your certification expired I'd imagine, but again all guess work as I'm not good enough to apply for a job with a vendor ha ha
     
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  8. SimonD

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    There also get's a point in your career where it may not make sense financially to work for a vendor.

    Whilst I would love to I fear it would take a massive step back in salary to do so now.
     
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  9. jk2447

    jk2447 Petabyte Poster Moderator

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    I have heard things that would suggest you're right mate.... CV gold but if you want top dollar.... I've been thinking recently, what do I want right now, career progression or cash. I'm going for cash as I want family holidays
     
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    SimonD Terabyte Poster Moderator

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    There also get's a point in your career where it may not make sense financially to work for a vendor.

    Whilst I would love to I fear it would take a massive step back in salary to do so now.
    Well the issue I have is that at some point in the future I will be moving on, I have been told on a number of occasions to give various people at VMware a shout and whilst I would love to I know that unless I am going in to a specialised role that either I would be travelling all over the place (hard with two small kids) or expected to work from home most of the time but at a much reduced rate, neither of which suit my life at the moment (I love the 640d too much to give it up just quite yet).
     
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  11. jk2447

    jk2447 Petabyte Poster Moderator

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    Don't blame you mate, beast of a motor!
     
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  12. SimonD

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    It is but have to admit to missing the 650i more than I thought, the noise from that was amazing (V8 awesome).

    Next motor will probably be petrol again (or maybe a hybrid i8 :D)
     
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  13. jk2447

    jk2447 Petabyte Poster Moderator

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    Bloody hell mate you're on more cash than me by the sounds of it, I'm looking for a diesel that's tax free to cut costs.

    My sporty days are over mate, I'm trying to get a property empire started now, cars just eat my cash so not only is my career going backwards, my cars are too! Fiat by 40!
     
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  14. SimonD

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    Which is why the move to a vendor would be difficult at this stage.
     
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  15. Juelz

    Juelz Gigabyte Poster

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    I can only assume MS wants to killoff windows 7 ASAP.
     
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  16. dmarsh

    dmarsh Terabyte Poster

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    Yes but operating systems aren't dead yet, nor the concepts that they contain. When we live in the matrix, with sentient clothes maybe...

    Operating System Fundamentals is absolutely the sort of course people should be taking if they have an interest in IT.
     
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