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Discussion in 'General Microsoft Certifications' started by Jay_7, Apr 22, 2008.

  1. Jay_7

    Jay_7 Nibble Poster

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    Hi all,

    Just a general query I can't seem to get to the bottom off. My understanding of Microsoft Certification is this:

    Many exams make up MCSA/MCSE

    One exam makes you a MCP... Once the correct combination of exams have been passed you are a MCSA.

    Once you are MCSA you only need a few more (3 or 4 I think) to be MCSE?

    Is this all correct?
     
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  2. greenbrucelee
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    certain microsoft exams like 70-271 make you an MCP, to get the MCSE you have to pass all the exams the MCSA does not count towards it.

    however compTIA A+ and N+ count towards the elective of the MCSA but you still have to do 2 exams after that.
     
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  3. Stoney

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    Yes almost.

    One Microsoft exam = MCP

    3 core MS exams + 1 elective (or 2 ComptiA exams) = MCSA

    6 core MS exams + 1 elective (not including Comptia certs) = MCSE

    If you do an elective exam for your MCSA that is in the MCSE then you do not have to do any additional exams, so you can do the minimum of 7 exams.

    The mystery is revealed here .

    HTH
     
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  4. Stoney

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    Ermm, yes it does.

    You need 70-270, 70-290, and 70-291 for the MCSA and these are core exams for the MCSE as well. If you do 70-284 in your MCSA then this also counts towards an exam in the MCSE.
     
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  5. Jay_7

    Jay_7 Nibble Poster

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    Excellent, cheers guys!
     
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  6. Jay_7

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    Actually, just to clarify, here's my plan...

    After I have my N+, I will be starting on my MCSA working towards: 70-290, 70-291 and 70-270. My understanding is that my A+ and N+ will count as my elective?

    After this, I will be doing Security+ and heading onto MCSE:Security; and my understanding of this is as follows:

    70-293, 70-294, 70-298 and 2 from 70-299, 70-227, 70-350, 70-351

    Does that all seem like it's a plan?
     
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  7. greenbrucelee
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    I was under the impression even if you did those core exams you had to do different ones to get the MCSE :oops:
     
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  8. nugget
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    GBL, the core exams are the same for MCSE as well as MCSA. When you think about it logically the MCSE is just an extension of the MCSA path.

    Jay_7, if you plan on doing the full MCSE you won't be able to use the A+ and N+. You'll have to do the full 7 MS exams. Also as I understand it if you do the 227 or 350 (ISA Server 2000 and 2004 respectively) then you'll get the Security tagged on the end anyway so you won't need to do the Security+.
     
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  9. BosonMichael
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    Say you get the MCSA for 2003. What "different" core exams could you possibly take to get the MCSE for 2003? :D
     
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  10. Jay_7

    Jay_7 Nibble Poster

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    Sorry to dig this up again folks. Why can't I use the A+ and N+ if I'll be going on to do MCSE: Security according to Nugget? Also why do both CompTIA and Microsoft say Security+ can be used as an elective?

    As I said above, If I do 70-290, 291 and 270 using my A+ and N+, I will be a MCSA, no?
    Then if I go on to do 70-293, 294, and 298, using S+ as an elective I can choose 1 from 70-299, 227, 350 or 351 and I would be a MCSE: Security? Contrasting information is quite confusing.
     
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  11. GiddyG

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    You can get your answers here and here.
     

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