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QOD #001

Discussion in 'Windows Server 2003 / 2008 / 2012 Exams' started by OffSide, Mar 1, 2005.

  1. OffSide

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    right lads, after getting the go ahead from jakamodo here is the first QOD, I will leave it to run for a couple of days then submit/discuss the answer on the 03/02/05.

    You are a member of the accounting group which has Read only access to a share called Pubs. Inside this directory is a file called spreadsheet1 that you have been given full control access to. What are your effective permissions for spreadsheet1

    1 No access
    2. Read Only
    3. Full Control
    4. Change
     
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  2. nugget
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    Well from memory (not got a lot left) permissions are calculated on the most restrictive from all given, so I'll choose
    2. Read only.
     
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  3. Jakamoko
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    In true spirit of confrontation, I go with 3. Full control, on the grounds that permissions are cumulative, and having read and full control over an object means the user will have full control , only over Spreadsheet1 tho (perms would still be read for the parent folder).

    As I finish writing this, I suddenly feel I've forgotten one vital part of the equation .....:rolleyes:
     
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  4. Gaz 45

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    I'll take a blast at Full Control also. Bit of a punt mind..
     
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  5. Phil
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    I'm with Nugget in the read only gang
     
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  6. AJ

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    Now I thought that share permissions where cumulative and therefore your permissions increased, if that makes sence. Therefore I'm with the Armodillo on this and go with Full Control
     
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  7. nugget
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    What happens then with NTFS permissions?
     
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  8. Phoenix
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    im with nugget here and saying 2. read only
     
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  9. Phil
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    I always think of the share permissions as a funnel, they restrict your rights before you reach the ntfs permissions. So if you have read share perms to a file then the most you will be able to do to a file in that share is read even if you have more ntfs rights. The effective rights are always the most restrictive, so if you had full control share and only read ntfs then you will only be able to read and not modify the file.

    Phil
     
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  10. Pablo1888

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    I'm going to say Read Only as permissions only work with shared folders, not individual files.
     
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  11. AJ

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    Ahh just re-read the question. You know the old RTFQ again rule. :oops:


    Still answered so shall leave it there



    DOH
     
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  12. Phil
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    ummmmm, Pablo, you can set permissions on individual files on an NTFS formatted partition or volume.
     
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  13. OffSide

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    pablo, you can set permissions on files, as a matter of fact files permissions take precedence over folders permissions.
    I do apologies to you peeps if the wording of the question isn't perfect. so for the purpose of clarifying things a bit here is the scenario :
    YOU belong to a group that has been given the SHARE permission READ.
    YOU have been given the NTFS permission FULL CONTROL for the file
    spreadsheet.
     
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  14. Pablo1888

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    Yeah lads, I stand corrected!!! Should have assumed it was NTFS.
    Doh!!:oops:
     
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  15. Jakamoko
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    Bloody good discussion tho, Guys - nice one O/s.

    Can't wait for the answer tomorrow :)
     
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  16. OffSide

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    Right lads the answer is number 2 READ ONLY.
    when dealing with a combination of share and NTFS permissions, the most restrictive of the two applies.

    if you want to brush up on the NTFS and SHARE permissions check this article
     
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  17. tripwire45
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    Good job, Offside. Nice question to start off with . Just a few suggestions, the first of which you've already addressed. I think it's good to cite the source of the QOTD when you present the forum with the answer. Then we can all see how it was arrived at and better educate ourselves on the subject matter.

    Also, when you post a OOTD, it's probably a good idea to add something like: "Answer tomorrow" which will give folks some idea of how long they've got to answer the question. I don't know if you've already done so, but we have some QOTDs (albeit old ones) here abouts. You might do a search for them to see if the way they are formatted might help. I know I did some QOTDs for wireless and for the 70-294 MS cert. Just a suggestion. These are yoru OOTDs so you "da man" as far as they're concerned.

    Good show.
     
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  18. Jakamoko
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    Nice one, Offside - good work. Thanks.



    <Trip - he DID post the finishing date on it :oops:>
     
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  19. nugget
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    Thanks Offside, nice start. :thumbleft
     
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  20. tripwire45
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    Senior moment. :rolleyes: :oops:
     
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