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Protecting the integrity of Microsoft Certification

Discussion in 'Training & Development' started by Sparky, Aug 8, 2007.

  1. Sparky
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    Apologies if this has been posted before but there is a recorded Live Meeting on the MCP members site which shows what Microsoft is doing to fight braindumps.

    Also it shows what exactly you can and can’t say in regard to the NDA.

    To view the live meeting log into the MCP site and click on the link at the right hand side of the page.

    Anyone else watched the meeting?
     
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  2. BosonMichael
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    I watched it. Very informative.
     
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  3. Theprof

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    I've seen it too and I agree with BM its is informative. Too bad many paper certified IT people dont feel the same as us and have to use braindumps to pass because they are too lazy to study.
     
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  4. hippy

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    On the mention of brain dumps...

    Does anyone live near Barnet, North London?

    I knew someone who got a certification course from barnet college, 10 weeks, 2.5k and you can do any certs in that time. I asked to look at the study information and it was basically a massive cheat sheet :-O... it even contained questions *suppose ably* from the real exam (1/3) and they got no hands on training.
     
  5. BosonMichael
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    Niiiiice. Report it, shut 'em down. That's the only way that the integrity of the program can remain intact.
     
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    You know what would be really nice is if you could just call the cops and report it like any other crime and they would go in and bust the people. I don't understand why you can't. This is a crime after all. I'm with Mike on this. Turn them in.
     
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    If you downloaded info that helped you pass your University exams and were found out, you would then loose your qualification and could face criminal proceedings.

    So why not brain dumps
     
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    One of my friends has got a job in IT management and his work are sending him on a four day A+ course. The first three days he will learn and then on the fourth day he is supposed to be sitting the two exams.

    Surely it's not possible to learn the full A+ course in just three days?
     
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  9. dmarsh

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    Yeah after reading all the stuff on braindumps i'm not sure what to think, all my certs are self study and even when I study full time, it takes me longer than the ft courses. I've had a few non cert courses and you can learn alot in a week with a good tutor.

    I've recently been offered a course by a salesman for a big professional UK training provider, A+ and N+ in one week ! I think its seven days but yeah still seems a little quick, not sure what to think... Just to watch the N+ cbt I've been watching took me 4 days...

    I'd question the value of sending the manager on an A+ course anyway, either they should have an IT background and have worked their way up or they should be a pure manager, that way they can do less damage ! :biggrin
     
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  10. Arroryn
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    If he has this kind of knowledge already, and the 3 days will be spent linking his knowledge with the CompTIA objectives, then he probably could pass.

    If he was new to the industry, and studied hard, yeah, he could theoretically pass something like A+ - but it doesn't mean it will have done him any good. Anything learnt under pressure is easily forgotten.
     
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    Cheers for the quick responses guys.

    He doesn't have any IT experience and graduated about a year ago with a Business degree. That's why I found it very strange that he could learn it all in just a few days.

    I have been learning the A+ from the Mike Myers book but was thinking about doing the same course as him. Just wanted to check and see what you guys thought as didn't want to go on it and find out that you only learn the stuff needed to pass the exams, rather than all the useful stuff the Mike Myers book has.

    .........sorry I seem to have went a bit off topic here, was just checking that this company didn't use braindumps.........
     
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  12. dmarsh

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    Well used to be the courses were stepping stones on the way to certs, look at Suns and Microsofts courses, you might need more than one course over time to get a cert. Now its all quick fix...

    Well thats easy, NEVER turn a chance down at training ! :biggrin

    You can always read the book before/during/after the course to fill in any gaps...
     
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