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Resolved ProLiant setup as NAS Box - advice wanted

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Apexes, Feb 4, 2011.

  1. Apexes

    Apexes Gigabyte Poster

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    Hi Chaps,

    Working in Germany currently, and i'm being sent off to the Frankfurt office for 2 days from monday next week with a new hp server to setup and install.

    It's been basically dumped on me half hour ago, because some other nause has completely mucked up - and I'm not entirely confident about what is there and if it's the correct setup - if anyone would mind reading through this and letting me know what you think, and any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! :)

    I havn't even seen the machine yet, but according to invoice: (Things of relevance)

    Server - HP ProLiant DL360R05 4M CTO
    Two internal 146gb 10k SAS drives
    P400i FIO Controller
    P400i FIO Controller 256mb cache

    Now, this is only going to be used as a NAS box, to run backups from the main date filer. there is an MSA20 shelf, for which i've got 6 x 500gb drives

    What i was thinking:

    Keep internal drives as they are on a RAID 1 setup with the OS
    Within the MSA20 shelf have a RAID 5 setup with 4 x 500gb drives to total 2tb, 1 as parity drive, and keep the other as a spare in case of failure

    Also, if i get hold of a HP SmartStart setup disk - is there the option to configure RAID setups in that? - All i've been given is a hard copy of Windows Server 2008 R2 x64 - and nothing else.

    Any advice or suggestions guys would be mucho appreciated

    Cheeers
    Jack
     
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  2. Gingerdave

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    Hi Jack, if its a new server they come with all the setup disks, however on first boot I would setup the RAID's after the POST and then reinstall the factory image over the top, allowing you the disk space you need and without having windows worry about doing a software RAID.

    Good Luck.
     
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  3. Apexes

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    It is new but the douchebag who bodged it first time round lost them! lol

    Thanks Dave, i'll aim to do the RAID setups first :)
     
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  4. onoski

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    Hi Jack,

    Sounds like you've got it sourced out in terms of your thinking on how to configure the new servers. I too would got for having the OS on RAID 1 and RAID 5 setup for the data drives.

    I recently setup a similar setup at work on a Dell PowerEdge 6850 purely for storage purposes to assist our regular backups taking off the strain.

    However, I did have a Dell PowerVault 220s attached to the server via a SCSI cable giving over 1.2 TB. I wouldn't worry as the servers are new and should come with a SmartStart CD for initial setup.

    If however, the hardware RAID doesn't work as you intend windows software RAID would kick in and does a good job two. Well as long as you stick to the above intended configuration you'd be fine.

    Best wishes and cheerio:)
     
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  5. ThomasMc

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    RAID 5 sucks :P
     
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  6. Gingerdave

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    Helpful :dry

    For what he needs it for RAID5 will be fine I'm sure.
     
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  7. ThomasMc

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    Thanks Dave, I aim to please :p
     
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  8. BosonMichael
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    Fixed that for you.
     
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  9. zebulebu

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    No - he's right - RAID5 does suck. For larger volumes at least. Anyone who's ever suffered from a punctured stripe (even more painful than it sounds) knows what I mean. Back in the day when disks were 146Gb each, RAID 5 was fine. Nowadays, with much larger capacity disks, RAID-50/RAID-DP is the way to go.
     
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  10. LukeP

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    There is a lot of situations where RAID 5 is good.

    Not sure if NAS is one of them but off the top of my head:
    - Exchange DAG
    - SQL DB (as long as logs are on different array)

    I might be wrong though.

    ... and it seems I am.
     
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  11. ThomasMc

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    No need BM, I still stand by my orginal post but thanks anyway :)
     
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  12. Apexes

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    All done! :D I shall change this status to solved lol.

    thx for replies all

    edit: turns out i can't edit original post! it can stay as problem :D
     
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  13. AJ

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    There you go mate changed to Resolved as requested :D
     
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  14. Apexes

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    Cheers :cheers
     
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  15. Gingerdave

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    Was it straight forward enough mate?
     
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  16. Apexes

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    Yup indeed, in the end only i had 5 drives as somebody nicked one for another site before i got there, tossers... so i ended up with 3 x500gb drives ~1.43tb - one parity and one spare

    All sat in the MSA20 shelf ticking away nicely, iLO configured and setup - and I'm just configuring the robocopy scripts for daily transfers now :)

    Having a fight with Symantec SEP to update, but apart from that all is good :mrgreen:

    Cheers for the help dave and checking up - +Rep :thumbleft
     
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  17. onoski

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    Glad to hear it all worked out and thanks for the feedback. Cheerio:)
     
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  18. Gingerdave

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    Glad to went well for you, and thanks for the rep.
     
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  19. zebulebu

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    3 drives for RAID5? eek! hope performance isn't an issue - because if it is, that would suck royally.
     
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  20. ThomasMc

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    Think its 4 zeb and one spare but even at that eek :D

    p.s look at FRS as well so your not writing needless data to the poor thing


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    I would be intrested to know the drive model number that your using
     
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