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Pi$$ed off.

Discussion in 'General Microsoft Certifications' started by Leehaa, Feb 13, 2007.

  1. Leehaa

    Leehaa Gigabyte Poster

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    Really trying for 70-270, but only getting about 50% in all the practice exams I take.

    just spoke to someone about it and they said "well that's the easiest of the exams"...it may be, but it really p33d me off knowing for a fact that he's got through the exams using brain dumps :dry
     
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  2. michael78

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    Personally I never really take notice of practice exams as I always fail them but usually pass the real thing. For me it's probably a lack of concentration of not being bothered to sit and do the practice exams.

    I wouldn't say 70-270 is easy or hard it just really depends on where your skills lie.
     
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  3. AJ

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    Trust me in this, I NEVER found any of the Microsoft exams easy, they were all difficult
     
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  4. supag33k

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    Well it is not too bad - certainly the electives for Exchange and SQL are harder - IMHO.

    Have you identified the areas you need to work on?

    I find that if I am doing poorly in the practice exams that I put them aside for a few weeks and go through the notes again.

    This is because it is a poor study method to just memorise answers to practice exams.

    Silly as it seems I find also that if I write out by hand the areas I am getting wrong or dont understand then I learn better.

    Also there is the basics of study such as say 3 one hour session a day every day at a minimum, proper food, plenty of sleep and no distractions.

    Basically I have found from my own experience that I am a moderate learner with good knowledge retention. I basically have developed a system that works for me and I focus on one thing at a time and dont stop.
     
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  5. Raffaz

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    Not much i can add to the advice mentioned. What practice exams are you using? If its trancender or something similar, that give a breakdown of the weak areas, then you can put the rest aside and concentrate on the weak areas fully. That way you can bring the weak areas up to standard, then repeat the process again until you have all the areas covered. Thats how i do it.
     
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  6. Leehaa

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    Thanks peops.

    Yeah, the diet thing is a huge factor. Been surviving on low calorie junk for last few weeks and concentration is pants!

    Will write down weak areas and concentrate on that...
     
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  7. BosonMichael
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    This advice is spot on. A practice exam can only accurately gauge your ability and readiness the FIRST time you take it. If you're getting 50% on a practice exam, then you retake it and score 70%, then you retake it and score 90%, you're NOT necessarily getting better... you're just able to answer those same questions you've seen over and over and over again. If you're using legitimate study sources (and you SHOULD be), you won't see those exact questions on the live exam. Therefore, being able to answer those same practice exam questions correctly the 2nd, 3rd, 4th time through can give you a VERY false sense of security.

    Like Supa said, if you're doing poorly, put the practice exams aside. Save one (or more!) unseen practice exams for when you want to give yourself a final test to see if you are REALLY ready.
     
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  8. Leehaa

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    BBM, they are randomly generated questions out of a huge selection. I haven't yet gotten to the stage where I am seeing the same ones again.
     
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  9. BosonMichael
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    If you're seeing even one question that you've already seen before, your score will be affected.

    If you're taking random questions from a pool, how will you be able to ensure that you will have all new, unseen questions for your "final test" to see if you're ready?
     
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  10. Bluerinse
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    Lee don't confuse test prep software with proper study material.

    What *study material* are you using and are you getting enough *hands on* with the topics covered?
     
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  11. Sparky
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    How much studying have you done?

    IMO if you start using practice tests before you have completed your study materials (whatever books etc. you are using) then it can do more harm than good. :blink

    Perhaps hit the books and leave the tests for a few days :biggrin
     
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  12. r.h.lee

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    Leehaa,

    Firstly, since the person you talked to passed the 70-270 based on braindumps, think of him as a "dead man walking" so no need to feel pissed off about.

    Secondly, it's better to fail an exam simulator than the real thing because you've already paid for the exam simulator. Understand that the purpose of exam simulators is to determine if you're ready for the real thing. Some exam simulators are actually tougher than the real thing, so a pass in the exam simulator may mean the real thing will be a breeze.

    Remember, a glass that's half full is a glass that's half full. You just need to keep filling it up between now and later. I wish you luck in your studies.

    I hope this helps.
     
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  13. Mitzs
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    I guess it is easy if he cheated his way though lee. Don't take into account anything he has to say about the exams. How would he really know? He has no advice to offer you hun. I'm with supa on writing stuff down, and then doing hands on if that is possable for you. I always write stuff down though. Makes it stick better and then you have good study notes to look at each day. One more piece of advice I would suggest to you is. If you know where are weak at. Post it here. Let those with more exp help walk you though it. Good luck to you hun. You can do this. Maybe take a break away from it for a day or two. Give your brain a break, there is such a thing as trying to hard and aggervating yourself will not help anything.
     
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  14. Leehaa

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    Thanks hun!!

    Plan is to study this week/ next weekend and do a bit more hands- on if get the chance.

    I am understanding most of it, but think my main problem now is remembering (in general) which protocols do what and what they stand for. Also, what all the different commands do.

    Also, my current job doesn't involve that many installations of XP (most of the PCs we prep are new and come with XP pre-installed, and the 90% of the prepping is done by my colleague), and, at home, well there's no chance to do much study - we are really busy with the wedding preparation (hand making all the invites and anything that we can to cut costs), families, house work etc etc...today I've had to dedicate the day solely to revision, but feeling awful as it's my niece's 3rd Birthday and I've had to opt out, but If i went, it would cut into at least 4 hours of the day (picking relatives up, eating, going for a walk, catching up with everyone etc etc)...it's manic!!

    I guess I got to keep remembering, that the whole reason I wanted to do the certifications was to gain / patch together knowledge, and that's what's happening every time I study/ revise - if it means that it's going to take longer to get the actual certification than some people, then so be
     
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  15. Mitzs
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    Ok, first off your not in a race. Second no 2 people learn at the same pace or on the same curve. Your actually learning the stuff not memorizing anwsers. It will take you longer because you are doing it the right way. ( which makes you rock in my book!) Second when you do get the cert, you will know the material. They will be able to let you loose and you know what your doing. Will they be able to do the same with the other guy? Another thing, you will be a LEGIT MCSE. Not a low life cheating FH. All us here see your potential Lee and we know you CAN do this. Dig a little deeper hun and you will see it too.

    The path you have chosen will take you away from some family stuff for right now till you learn more. Like the rest of us here you will fig out how to juggle it all with time. In this field though, your learn path will really never stop though because you will always have to keep up with technology.

    Also maybe for birthdays and xmas, ummm, maybe a wedding present, you could start asking for computer stuff to start a homelab? You need to pratice the stuff would help you so much. Stay strong lee, dig deep, and don't allow what others are doing to affect your goals. Yes, now you can say you have your very own personal cheerleader.:p And if i hit the lottery soon I will fly over and beat that BD with my cane just for you!
     
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  16. supag33k

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    Yes - and you will the better tech for it as well - compared to some clown that BD's his way past it all...
     
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  17. Leehaa

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    :biggrin Mitzs, you ROCK!! :rocks Thank you for the ideas - will keep at it!!
     
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  18. Frontier

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    If you are only getting 50% in your practice exam my advice is to read through the material again and again until it starts to sink in a bit more. Not everyone picks things up straight away and as alot of people here have already pointed out the ms exams are not made to be easy so do not expect too much of yourself. Try not to get down over it because I am sure there are alot of people out there who are the same :D
     

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