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OU IT Accreditiation

Discussion in 'Training & Development' started by twizzle, Jul 24, 2009.

  1. twizzle

    twizzle Gigabyte Poster

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    I've been looking at some Open Uni course and saw that they do an Accreditation of It practioners course. This allows you to take various IT certs already gained and countthem towards soem OU courses.

    This is the course details

    http://www3.open.ac.uk/courses/bin/p12.dll?C01MT127

    Now it does say its uses ICT Vendors such as Microsoft and some of thier certs to help get that accreditaion but when you follow this link for applicable vendors

    http://www.computing.open.ac.uk/Course/MT127

    It only lists MS as a Vendor and then only some of the courses.

    So it seems any one with a Comptia, Cisco or anyother Vendor can not be acreditted.. so whats they point? Why only MS? were they the only ones willing to stump up for this???
     
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  2. JonnyMX

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    I 'did this course' a few years back.
    It's a handy way of bumping up your OU points if you are already a student, but pretty pointless otherwise.

    You just send them the course fee and your transcript details and you pass.

    Seemed to cause them some confusion though, eventually I had to send them a link to their own website so they knew which course I was on about.

    There were a very limited number of certs that they would accept if I recall.
     
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  3. dmarsh

    dmarsh Terabyte Poster

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    I would consider yourself lucky the OU will give you any credit given all the braindumping.

    They do not give credit for CCNA for instance, you have to take their CCNA course.

    They also refuse to give any credit towards masters level qualifications.

    With these courses they are making it pretty easy to get an IT foundation degree, I'd be happy, looks like much less effort than the 2 years fulltime most people have to put in (providing you have an MCSA) :-

    Pathways
    http://ict.open.ac.uk/g04/
    http://www.mcs.open.ac.uk/Qual/G06

    MCSA basically gets you 60 points straight off the bat which is a whole years OU study off.

    That leaves 180 points worth of study, which is three years normally, but a lot of that will be level one stuff, and the level two stuff looks pretty easy too, so possible in 2 years part time probably.

    From nothing to foundation degree in two years part-time distance learning sounds good to me.
     
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  4. JonnyMX

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    Level 1 is pretty 'easy' I guess for higher education.
    I've done a couple of level 2's and they were pretty tough.

    It's the pace more than anything - keep up with the course material and submit half a dozen TMAs.
    It doesn't sound like much, but the TMAs are like mini exams with some of the longer questions being projects in their own right.

    You can't make a head start on the TMA as you won't have covered all the necessary material, and they're pretty strict on their deadlines. Some people played the numbers game and worked out that they could skip a TMA in which case they give you an average mark for it - but then that gives you no room for manouver in the future...

    Each module I did had people falling by the wayside and probably only 40% or less of my original tutorial group made it to the end of year exams.

    But certainly a more viable option for some than 3 years at uni.
     
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  5. dmarsh

    dmarsh Terabyte Poster

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    Well I must say I'm finding MS221 pretty tough, but I reckon I could walk an OU IT foundation degree.

    Mind you I do already have a Computer Science degree an MCSA and can code in Java so that may be a little unfair.
     
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  6. dales

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    Thats a great find twizz thanks (repp'd) just signed up for the network living module (thought I'd give it a whirl). Wonder if Arroyn would find the link useful too.
     
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  7. twizzle

    twizzle Gigabyte Poster

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    I keep looking at the OU courses. I tried one years ago, it was Music technology or something and was teh fisrt time course was run. Cant fault the material supplied but the TMA's were hard work (at least i thought so and it was level 1!) and close togther. The online groups werent much good but the tutor feedback really helped. Unfortunatley i revised the wrong bits for the exam and crashed out badly.

    I keep looking to maybe start another course such as the web desgin or anything IT related. I just cant afford it at the moment.

    The main reason for my post though was to point out how they suggest they use various IT vendors to help get that extra accreditation but in fact the only one they use is MS and only a few of thier certs even then. It makes teh point of being acredited pointless. You may as well just study for thier own courses straight of the bat.

    I may still do one one day (specially as works pushing me into some web desgin as well as training) but not right now.

    Thanks for the Rep dales! dunno if Arro will be interested (she's waaaaay to brainy for OU lol)
     
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  8. dmarsh

    dmarsh Terabyte Poster

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    Arroyn's already doing some OU courses, in English Literature or Creative Writing I think.

    I think they've dropped exams for all courses at level 1, you just do extra TMA/CMA's.

    So most level 1 stuff should be pretty easy to pass now.

    The OU offers maths and physics degrees, masters and even a few research masters, so I think few people are 'too brainy' for the OU.

    I think the main problem is distance learning is probably harder for most subjects and you can feel isolated.

    Also they tend to cater for more main stream subjects and don't offer the variety of modules you can get at some top universities, but then they need to be able to fill courses and find tutors like any college. Also top colleges tend to have a few specialist subjects, the OU covers a pretty broad range of subjects.
     
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  9. Arroryn
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    Arroryn we're all dooooooomed

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    Don't let my zany status updates fool you Twizz - no one's too brainy for the world of academia, no matter which Uni :) and I'm certainly not too brainy for it!

    My BA is Modern Language Studies - I'm doing a general level 1 humanities course (compulsory and painfully broad-brushed). Level 2 and Level 3 is where it gets interesting, so it would be intriguing to see how the content of the linky above goes. I'm doing an exploration of the English Language at Level 2, along with a German course that involves a residential school and a Latin course. Then at Level 3 it's more German (no residential school this time) and more advanced Latin. English Grammar makes up my last Level 3 course for the Honours degree.

    THEN I'll go techy. The OU offer an MSc in Advanced Networking - which basically appears to comprise of the CCNP and a dissertation. However, Coventry University also offer a similair course, so by the time I've knocked out the BA we'll see where I want to take it.

    Distance learning with the OU is challenging, and if you don't take advantage of the day schools and tutorials they set up for you, you will miss out on vital information, as well as just getting the experience of socialising with peeps in the same study-boat as you.
     
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  10. jk2447

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    I've done a few of the OU maths and technology courses and found them very good but at times very isolated. That said, with all the pressure being on you alone, its a great feeling when you pass a difficult course. I made some enquiries with my Uni and they explained I only needed 30 points at level 2 or above to add the (hons) to my degree. Cut a long story short, by passing my MCSA, then havnig done an OU course that qualifies me for the Level 2 version of the accreditation at the start of this thread, my Uni will award me my honours! Downside is that it will go from Comp Sci to an unnamed degree but I don't care, its made up of Computing courses just the same, happy days :D
     
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  11. dmarsh

    dmarsh Terabyte Poster

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    I've been to most of my tutorials, still finding it tough, and its still not very social to be honest. I don't think I could do a full honours degree the the OU, respect to those that can manage it !
     
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  12. ericrollo

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    That is sort of my thinking i want to do a certificate in mathematics which is just 60 points but i need to get a job first
     
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  13. Arroryn
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    Our programmer at work got her Computing Honours degree solely through the OU - she was full of praise for it, but agreed it is a very solitary way of doing things.
     
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  14. dmarsh

    dmarsh Terabyte Poster

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    Didn't you want to go travelling ? Why don't you take a 'gap year' and build a school in africa ? or do the Transmongolian railway, or at least some Interrailing etc ?

    If you want to study go to university and get a degree, they will do maths referesher courses or foundation years some places.

    The OU's main strength is that it can be fitted around work for mature students, and with respect, you aren't mature ! :D
     
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  15. dmarsh

    dmarsh Terabyte Poster

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    Well I've already been self studying IT for 15 years, so perhaps if I'd started earlier it wouldn't be a drag, but then I already have a Comp Sci degree so it would have been pretty pointless to study at undergrad level. IT seems a good subject to distance learn in general, probably better than most others.

    I also looked at the OU Computer Science MSc, seemed rather expensive, at around 10k and the modules looked a bit dull.

    I find finding the time and motivation to do maths homework at 35 extremely hard !
     
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