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Discussion in 'Employment & Jobs' started by UKDarkstar, Jun 20, 2008.

  1. UKDarkstar
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    Support engineer position on the Reed site today has this at the bottom :

    Apply for this job

    If you wish to apply for this job please answer the questions below then click on the apply button.


    Have you heard of Navision before? YesNo

    Can you work shifts? YesNo

    Can you drive? YesNo

    Have you ever been dismissed before? YesNo


    I can understand asking about Navision (though if they want you to support it I hope you've more than "heard" of it !) but have neve seen questions with answer buttons before !
     
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  2. Stoney

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    It's just a few simple questions that will help the employer weed out unsuitable candidates.

    There's no point you getting to the an interview and then saying you don't want to work shifts and you don't have a driving license. It's a waste of their time and resources.

    I'm not sure if it's compulsory to answer them though, it should give you more detail on the advert about how to apply.

    HTH 8)
     
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  3. Phoenix
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    Why does someone who's been dismissed become unsuitable?
    being dismissed is not a bad thing, being dismissed is you and the company not quite melding, and they took action first, not entirely different to quitting, except you take action first

    I wont get into the details right now, im heading up to Social Media Cafe in London, but unless it was Gross misconduct or something, its just a parting of two entities, nothing more!
     
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  4. UKDarkstar
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    Indeed, I was just making the point that I would normally expect these listed as requirments maybe. Just not seen them on a recruitment site (especially such a major one) that required them to be answered before applying (not that I was - crap company !)
     
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  5. The_Geek

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    They need to add:

    "Can you work 20 hours a day for little to no pay?" yes/no
     
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  6. Stoney

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    I would guess it goes into some automated processing system, rather than adding it as a requirement for the role and people applying regardless of whether they could match the requirements or not.


    I hear your what you're saying Phoenix, I think maybe my blanket 'unsuitable' doesn't apply to the dismissal question, I'm not even sure if employers are allowed to ask that anyway? Just because you have been dismissed from a company it shouldn't hinder you from gaining further employment elsewhere.

    But whilst we're on the point, I personally understand dismissal as the company terminating your contract of employment. For them to do this you have to have breached the terms and conditions laid out in the employment contract, or the employer is liable for unfair dismissal.

    I do not know how a company can just turn around and end your employment just because the employer and employee didn't quite see eye to eye. The employee could get offered an opportunity to resign, or even forced into redundancy, but not out rightly dismissed.

    The only option I could see is, 'if a clause in the employment contract permitted termination within a certain notice period without reason'. This would be pretty harsh and would certainly fit in with what you are saying.
     
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  7. grim

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    Have you heard of Navision before? - google and click yes

    Can you work shifts? - should be easy enough to answer

    Can you drive? - again should be easy to answer

    Have you ever been dismissed before? - unless you've been sacked for something like misconduct i'd click no

    Grim
     
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  8. Crito

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    In the United Corporations of America it's called "at-will" employment.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At_will_employment

     
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  9. tripwire45
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    All we've got in Idaho is "at will" employment since it's a "right to work" state (read: "We-pay-a-lot-less-than-other-places-for-the-same-work").
     
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  10. Stoney

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    Cheers Crito, but I don't think we have that law in the UK (at least I hope we don't!!).

    Really! :ohmy

    That's gotta be a concern for you? Do you not worry over job security?
     
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  11. somabc

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    Once you have worked somewhere for a year in the UK you get protection from unfair dismissal, until then the situation is similar to the USA as I understand it
     
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  12. Stoney

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    I always thought it was up until you have completed your notice period you can be dismissed without reason and usually on a weeks notice.

    Once you have completed your notice period your full contractual entitlement comes into play.
     
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  13. BosonMichael
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    Not if you're good. 8)
     
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  14. somabc

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    I was going by the advice here
    http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/RedundancyAndLeavingYourJob/DG_10026692

    In most cases you will need to have a year's service to make a claim for unfair dismissal.

    I think you mean Wrongful dismissal

    "Wrongful dismissal is different from unfair dismissal. It's where your employer breaches your contract in dismissing you, normally by dismissing you without notice or without following a procedure required by your contract. A dismissal can be both wrongful and unfair."

    http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/EmploymentContractsAndConditions/DG_10027521
     
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  15. Stoney

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    Ah yes you're right, I probably do mean Wrongful dismissal! :biggrin
     
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  16. ffreeloader

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    I disagree with this. The right-to-work means you can't be forced to join a labor union to get a job. In states that do not have the right-to-work laws you can't get into many positions without joining a union. I have lost out on a lot of really good jobs because of the requirement to join a union is enforced legally.

    To me it's a complete raft of crap that a union can keep me from working. It's nothing more than economic blackmail.
     
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