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No computers in workgroup

Discussion in 'Networks' started by datarunner, Aug 8, 2007.

  1. datarunner

    datarunner Byte Poster

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    hi all

    ive seen this loads of times and its annoying so i thought id ask. Ive setup a simple workgroup with 2 pcs on the same subnet but when i go to my network places then view workgroup computers nothing shows on either pc.

    computers are connected to a netgear router by cat5 cable and can both get www access. The ping command works both ways but they just cant see each other for file sharing etc. Ive unloaded all firewall software as well.

    Any ideas?
     
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  2. wagnerk
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    This may sound simple, but are you sure both PC's workgroup name are the same?

    Right click - My computer, Properties

    Sometimes the default workgroup is MSHome, sometimes it's Workgroup.

    -Ken
     
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  3. datarunner

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    yep same name - i should have mentioned that
     
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  4. Boycie
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    Have you enabled file sharing?

    What happens if you enter \\ip_address_of_remote_machine\c$ at the run box?
     
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  5. hbroomhall

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    <Cough> This is a common misconception. :biggrin The Workgroup names are just for convenience - they do not have to be the same for sharing to happen.

    Each year a whole group of nutters descends on a Dorset hotel for a weekend of computing, chat and good food. Many of us take our computers with us and we set up a quick network in a room of the hotel. Although the workgroup names are legion we never have any difficulty in getting shareing to work.

    Harry.
     
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  6. datarunner

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    Hmm never knew that worked
     
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  7. wagnerk
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    I've only mentioned that cause I've had problems with this before, different workgroups won't stop you sharing, however it was mentioned that when he looks in "My Network Places" he can't see the other PC and that is what I understood as the problem.

    -ken
     
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  8. MacAllan

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    It's sometimes a BROWSER problem. Try 'Search' for the other computers - often they 'appear' and will do so ever after.

    Also, you do need to have set folders to be shared.

    Using Simple File Sharing or NTFS permsissions? If the latter, you will need a username on each box that has permission for the folder before it is seen.

    Also, don't use NULL passwords.

    Might help.......
     
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  9. r.h.lee

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    datarunner,

    Questions:
    1. Which operating system is running on the first PC?
    2. Which operating system is running on the second PC?
     
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  10. Bluerinse
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    Sometimes you just have to wait a while for the browser service to do it's election thing :rolleyes:
     
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  11. hippy

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    I had a problem sharing printers across a workgroup and this may help for the file sharing problem if its an authentication issue.

    On computer A you have login 'A' you use.
    On computer B you have login 'B' you use.

    Now on computer A make a duplicate of login 'B' (username + password)
    and
    do the same for computer B, make a duplicate login of 'A' (username + password)
     
  12. dales

    dales Gigabyte Poster

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    hippy is right about the access issue (the joys of admining a workgroup) however that shouldnt stop you seeing other computers, you just wont be able to access them.

    Are you sure that you have unloaded all the firewall software, I know that certain versions of norton and zonelabs leave some active portions of their programs on the machines which effectivly means it is still firewalled (i've had that issue before) also I assume that file and print sharing has been enabled as an exception in windows firewall if that is still running.
     
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