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Discussion in 'Training & Development' started by bodie37, Mar 15, 2006.

  1. bodie37

    bodie37 Bit Poster

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    Hi there

    This is my first post and I'm after a bit of advise

    I'm an ICT Manager with 15 years of experience working for a factory in the midlands and have gone as far as I can here, also the future of the company does not look good.

    After looking at sites such as monster.co.uk it looks like I need to obtain either MCSA or MCSE (I'm leaning more to this one) to actual get a job at the same level/better employment I'm on at the moment.

    I've been to see NITLC last weekend and was most impressed, but £4300 is alot to part with even though I can get a loan from the CDL. I'm only 40 miles from Newark so that is handy.

    Is NITLC worth the outlay of £4300?

    I know that this is an open question but what is the average time to complete the MSCE.

    I've also had information from CBT Direct based in Florida USA, has anybody had experience of CBT Direct? They are only charging £1200

    Also is they an training companies in the Midlands?

    Has anybody done this solo with just the study books? and if so how did they find it?

    Sorry if my questions are a bit vague?

    Stuart
     
    Certifications: A+, N+, NT4 W/S & NT4 Server MCP
    WIP: MCSA
  2. simongrahamuk
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    Welcome to CF!

    The majority of people here prefer to self learn, that is to buy the books, get the software, and play with it. It is also most likely that you will have to self learn even with a provider, just cheaper doing it alone. If you can motivate yourself to learn then go for self study, if you like the pressure of deadlines, etc, then use a provider.

    The question of 'how long' could be the same as 'how long is a piece of string?'. It all depends on how much you already know, how many hours a day you can dedicate to study, how easilly you pick things up, etc. Going for an advanced cert like the MCSA/E is not for the faint hearted and can take many years of hard work.

    What I'd suggest that you do is to have a look at the CompTIA A+ on your own through self study before signing up with a provider. The A+ is an entry level cert that someone with 15 years experience such as yourself should have no problem in picking up. It is also internationally recognised.

    If you do opt for the A+ do not make the mistake of thinking that it is below you, as it covers basics, I've been in IT 9 years, and still think that I could learn something by sitting it.

    :biggrin
     
  3. bodie37

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    Thanks for that. I did start the A+ (same as you I think there is always something to learn) but I let it slip. I think I may have answered my own question with that last comment lol

    Has anybody here complete the MCSE with NITLC and managed to find employment with the help of NITLC?
     
    Certifications: A+, N+, NT4 W/S & NT4 Server MCP
    WIP: MCSA
  4. Disco25

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    Hi,

    I went with NITLC about 5 years ago now, seems the price has gone up but all i can say from when i went with them is that the support wasn't great.

    I'd advise you to get a good system, Try to get your hands on MS Virtual PC or Server software and learn that way.
    Or find a provider that uses Virtual machines you can train on, some do Virtual online labs, this way you're actually using the skills you're learning.
    If you are going to spend that much that's the least i'd expect from them.
     
  5. Sparky
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    In regard to the price I thought it was £3700 for the A+, Network+, MCSE and CCNA? :blink
     
    Certifications: MSc MCSE MCSA:M MCSA:S MCITP:EA MCTS(x5) Security+ Network+ A+
    WIP: Exchange 2007\2010
  6. Bluerinse
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    I would take it one step at a time, do the A+ and N+ which will give you an excellent foundation before embarking on any Microsoft certs. Then do the MCP in XP. Now you will have three certs, so if you want to progress to MCSA you will only have two MCP exams to get there as A+ and N+ count as an elective toward MCSA. Once you are MCSA you will be in a better position to decide whether or not you want to go for MCSE. There is considerably more work involved in MCSE and a lot of what you need to learn may not be applicable to your job role, hence you will not be able to use the knowledge gained and if you don't use it, you will lose it.

    MCSE took me three years BTW, much tougher than I predicted. I had seven years of commercial experience prior to that and many more on a more personal level.
     
    Certifications: C&G Electronics - MCSA (W2K) MCSE (W2K)
  7. Keimos

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    Hi bodie37,

    As an ICT manager of 15 years, you must have some idea of what you know?

    The real question you need to ask is where that fits into the picture of what you want to do?

    The A+ is great to confirm that you can build, install and troubleshoot computers, is that your type of job?

    I would guess that you were the person, interested in computers, that had managerial potential and got lumbered with looking after the computer side of things.

    Just a guess, maybe totally wrong, but you need to look at where you want to go and what you want to achieve. You have received some good advice but not necessarily advice that applies to you.

    And yes, your question is vague enough, not to be able enough to give a good answer.

    Each person has there own needs, desires and the way they want to learn.

    Keimos
     
    Certifications: Microsoft Office Specialist
  8. Baba O'Riley

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    Hi, I just came back from my first workshop with NITLC (cough...passed A+...cough), and I thought it was great. My enthusiasm had dwindled a bit before then, reading the same material over and over, but the workshop really got me interested again. I was using it as a last minute cram session but others there were using it as a learning excersise (some had never seen inside a machine for example) but I still learned plenty of stuff. I saw my first ever MCA card for example, so it helped everyone. Out of nine people in the workshop, seven took the exams and we all passed - that's not a bad record. And the instructor - student ratio is pretty good (maximum 10 to 1).

    I went there thinking if I passed I would take a week off the studying but now I'm back I can't wait to get my teeth into the Network+.

    Yes, there's the argument that it's a lot of money and self study might suit some people better, but I've come away feeling I'm really getting my money's worth and if I was at home studying still I'd still be in a bit of a rut.

    HTH :D
     
    Certifications: A+, Network+
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  9. Bluerinse
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    Then it's congratullations time Baba :D

    Have a VB on me buddy "toss" :beers2 :clap
     
    Certifications: C&G Electronics - MCSA (W2K) MCSE (W2K)
  10. zimbo
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    talk about a gentle anouncement!!! GUYS BABA HAS PASSED A+!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Congrats mate! :alc :cheers :thumbleft
     
    Certifications: B.Sc, MCDST & MCSA
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  11. Baba O'Riley

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    Thanks guys :oops: . Not really into blowing my own trumpet but I thought it would be rude not to mention it somewhere and it seemed natural to mention it while I was writing that post. On to the N+ now, which TBH, looks like a piece of p1ss compared to the A+.
     
    Certifications: A+, Network+
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