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New prison rules

Discussion in 'The Lounge - Off Topic' started by ffreeloader, Nov 27, 2007.

  1. ffreeloader

    ffreeloader Terabyte Poster

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    I hope I can say, only in jolly old England about this one, as I hope it this level of insanity never reaches our shores.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article507382.ece
     
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  2. Node

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    its a disgrace really, the prison system is becoming a joke!
     
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  3. Arroryn
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    Arroryn we're all dooooooomed

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    Living in the UK is a joke, full stop.

    Pheo has it spot on by emigrating. I almost moved to Germany a few years back with my old job; I'd still be tempted, to tell you the truth.

    My other half's dad used to be a prison officer. Once, an inmate was trying to escape prison, and he pulled him down off a fence, cutting his leg in the process. The £@!$ actually tried to claim damages, because of his personal injury (whilst trying to escape prison!!!!!)

    Thankfully, it was a couple of decades ago, and the judge threw it out of court straight away. I'd dread to think what would happen in this wonderful 'PC' day and age though :eek:
     
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  4. Kraven

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    What a joke! And they wonder why theres so much crime these days, the criminals know they'll get away with it and if not then they'll get a few easy months in prison.

    Kraven
     
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  5. simongrahamuk
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    simongrahamuk Hmmmmmmm?

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    National Service anyone?
     
  6. Fergal1982

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    The problem is that people are getting too much into the Human Rights stuff. Im all for Human Rights, but criminals forfeit their right to all but the most basic human rights (roof over their head, basic rations, basic exercise, and basic access to outdoors - oh, and medical care) when they are sentenced in my view.
     
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  7. wagnerk
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    Harsh, but I agree :x

    If my wife was more willing to move away from the UK, we would have left already... (that's not to say that everything is bad in the UK). But it sure looks like it's heading that way...

    -ken
     
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  8. Modey

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    I'm sorry getting sent to prison in this country doesn't mean they will get things easy. The prisons in the UK are very overcrowded (in some cases prisoners are locked in for upwards of 20 hours a day). My parents have been on several visits to prisons in their time as magistrates and you really wouldn't want to end up there, believe me.


    Yes the story seems ridiculous and I very much doubt that it will stay in place for long as a policy. It doesn't even sound like this is an official policy yet anyway, it is being reported as a recommendation.
     
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  9. rax

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    Don't forget how well protected the high profile criminals are, Ian Huntley, Luke Mitchell etc. WE PAY thousands per year for THEIR PROTECTION while they are in prison for the brutal crimes they commited.
     
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  10. greenbrucelee
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    Damn right.

    I would go further, pedos need shooting, if a someone is convicted totally of murder without any chance of mistake then they should have the death penalty.

    That would ease the overcrowding issue.
     
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  11. Modey

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    Yes because there never been any cases of miscarriges of justice before have there ...
     
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  12. greenbrucelee
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    thats why I said it needs to be conclusive. :D
     
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  13. Modey

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    Can it ever be 100% conculsive though? What about cases where the police have been found to have altered evidence? It's a bit late to say 'we made a mistake' after you have executed someone. You could go with a system where people are held on death row like in the USA, but I saw an analysis of the cost of a typical prisoner being on death row being more expensive than a typical 'life' sentence in terms of cost. Especially when all the appeals and interventions are factored in.
     
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  14. Tinus1959

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    In the bottom of my heart I would agree, but there have been cases where someone was freed after 20 yeas in because finally it turned out he did not do what he was convicted for. Some mistake during court and he was put away for some time: innocent. Now would you pull that trigger? You could by mistake kill an innocent man. That would make you a murderer. I would not take that change.
     
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