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Discussion in 'A+' started by greenbrucelee, Jun 27, 2007.

  1. greenbrucelee
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    As some of you know I have been going to do the A+ through a training provider but have come to the realisation that I self study through advice from the good people on here.

    I am wanting to become a network engineer, not really wanting to do desktop support would the general concensious be that I do the A+ then N+ then an MCP in MS server or should I go for MSCE after that or something else.
     
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  2. Sparky
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    What’s wrong with desktop support mate?

    To be honest it’s very difficult to go straight into a network support job. You really need experience in regard to how a desktop PC is used in a domain environment.
     
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  3. greenbrucelee
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    Nothing wrong with desktop support its just that what I really want to do is working in a network engineer role, I know I may have to start in desktop support, but what I am more interested in the moment is what certs to get whilst looking for a job.
     
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    Cool, personally I would go for A+ Network+ and MCDST while looking for an entry level IT job. This could be helpdesk or a desktop support type role.

    If it helps I worked on a helpdesk for 9 months before moving into network support. Still need to do some desktop support now and again though, there is no escape! :biggrin
     
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    Cheers Sparky do the A+ and N+ count towards any part of the MCDST?
     
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    No, but you can use the A+ and Network+ towards MCSA if you decide to do that in the future.

    Maybe go for a Microsoft cert after the A+? If you have "Microsoft Certified" on your CV it might get your CV past the HR department and into the hands of the IT manager. :biggrin
     
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    Would it not be a bit difficult to go from A+ straight to MCP?
     
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    I had a look at the MS Press books for the 70-271 and 70-272 and I think you could go for that after the A+ if you wanted to.

    Good to have a spare PC (or virtual) so you can install XP and mess around with it.
     
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    If I decide to get virtual pc instead of getting a throw away computer how do I get the operating systems do I have to actually own them or pay for some sort of licence?
     
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    To be honest, it's nigh impossible to go straight into a network support job. You most *definitely* need experience in regards to the problems that users have with regards to network connectivity using their desktop PCs in a domain environment.
     
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    I will just concentrate on desktop support at the moment then?

    Also with Virtual PC do I need the licenses or operating systems to use them?
     
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    Sounds like a plan.

    Yes, you do need a valid license for whatever OS you use on the virtual partition. It works and operates (more or less) just like you're installing it on a fresh computer. Therefore, you need a legal copy of the OS.
     
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    Sorry to but in the thred, but Sparkey might have a massive point here.

    I was planning to start the Net+ next but perhaps having "Microsoft Certified" on my CV or even stating that I am studying for it could help.
     
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    Ms Press MSDST books come with an evaluation copy of XP Professional vaild for 180 days! :biggrin
     
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    Cheers Spilly but I already have xp pro as a spare OS but would like some older MS OS like Windows 98 and newer ones like vista or even server 2003
     
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