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Need a professional advise on joining the new job.

Discussion in 'Employment & Jobs' started by momer79, Jan 30, 2011.

  1. momer79

    momer79 Bit Poster

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    Hi,

    Currently i am working as a junior developer for a well known logistic company and recently i have got a job offer from the company who is specialise in HR and Payroll softwares.

    I am wondering if its worth joining the new company?

    In my current job, there are only two developers in the team, the other guy is quite senior than me. I don't see any career progression in the company becuase the other guy is about 45 yrs old and he is with the company for over 10 years. I think my job title will always be a junior developer in the current company though the work i am doing is upto the level of middle level developer.

    I am very well settled in my job and working enviorment is quite good and relax, people are also very nice.

    The new job is in the different city and they are paying me 6k more than i am on now. The working enviorment would be different in the new company becuase there are about 7 developers in the company.

    I have got more than 2 years experience in .Net.

    Is this worth changing the job for 6k? Also is this okay to put my current job title as a 'Software Developer' in my cv instead of a 'Junior Developer'?
     
  2. bazzawood30

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    Go see your boss and tell him/her you have been made an offer and see how much he wants to keep you. You may get 6k to stay where you are.
     
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  3. Sparky
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    Yup, have a chat with your boss. Explain that you would like to stay but have been offered another job. You might even get more than £6k.
     
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  4. momer79

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    Hi,

    After receiving the confirmation about the new job today, i just straight went to my boss and mentioned him about the situation and also told him that i like to stay with the company but other companies are willing to offer me 25% more money than i am on now.

    He asked me about my current salary and when i told him about the figures i am on now,he had a bit of shock. He said that its not really much money.

    He said he won't promise anything, he needs to discuss with managing director and will get back to me on monday.

    Finger crossed!:biggrin
     
  5. drum_dude

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    Your boss didn't know your salary? I thought every boss would know what the pay levels are in his/her team?
     
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  6. momer79

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    I joined the company over two years ago and its a big company where there are alot of managers doing all sort of things.
     
  7. momer79

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    Hi,

    Last thursday i went to view the new company's office and didn't get a good impression.

    I might not accept the new job offer becuase i am not 100% sure if i want to work for this company even they are paying me 6k more. I had a two interviews with this company, first one was on the phone where the manager went through my cv and the second one was near my home becuase i wasn't able to attend the second interview to their office due to bzy schedual so they asked me to meet me in the cafe near my home, they were already seeing some client in the city i live and suggested to meet me in the evening. This job is in the different city and i will have to move with my family.

    On monday, my manager will let me know whether they are going to raise my salary or not. If they offer me 4k more then i think i will stay with the same company as i am very well settled here and most importantly people are very nice.
     
  8. drum_dude

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    Can you give us some info on why you didn't get a good impression after visiting their office? All you've mentioned so far was the interview process???

    So what happens when your manager (a person that didn't know your salary) comes back and tells you "sorry, no money on the table"?
     
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  9. drum_dude

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    So do you have one manager or loads of managers managing you? A manager that does not know your salary is like your family Doctor who does not know your medical record!

    P.S. just because it's a big company that does not mean that a line manager is excused from not knowing your salary. The fact that he has to go to the Board actually shows that it is a small company.
     
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  10. momer79

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    Their office is small and about 8-9 developers are sitting in a small room next to each other, also there is no career progression in the company.

    If i don't get any pay raise on monday then i think i will keep looking for a other most suitable opportunity.

    For pay raise, my manager has to disucss with Managing director.
     
  11. drum_dude

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    I hope you get the raise! (fingers crossed) :biggrin
     
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  12. momer79

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    Hi,

    My boss told me today that he is waiting for the payrol guideline for this year and then will discuss with the main head of the company but he told me that i won't get a 25% raise.

    I think i will only get a 5% raise nothing more than that.
     
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2011
  13. Theprof

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    5% pay rise is not that bad, its decent, but the only way to get something like 25% is either a new job or a salary adjustment. The thing is, salary adjustments usually happen when you are promoted to a new role, in your case you're doing the exact same work with no promotion or extra responsibility so it's really hard to get an adjustment of 25%.... I did the same as you, I went out and saw what my market value is and approached my boss like that. My boss could not give me a pay rise of 20% right away, so he did it in two stages... each review I would get 10% and that in 1 years time I would be where I am needed to be. This however depends on management. It depends on how valuable you are to the company, etc...
     
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