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N+ compared to A+

Discussion in 'Network+' started by Mr.Cheeks, May 16, 2006.

  1. Mr.Cheeks

    Mr.Cheeks 1st ever Gold Member! Gold Member

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    Hi all,

    Im kinda jumping the gun, but was looking at the CompTIA N+ objectives , and was kind of pleased when the vast majority of terms were fimiliar... I will be doing N+ after A+, without any question about it, but my question to you guys is;

    how much diff was N+ compared to A+, or did you already have to knowledge and found that it was just a matter of learning a few new stuff and brushing up on items...
     
  2. The_Geek

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    Apples to oranges on that one. While there is SOME overlap, for the N+ you need to know the OSI model inside and out, and what protocols reside in each layer, and what protocols are/are not routeable.
     
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  3. Mr.Cheeks

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    just on the top of my head, is OSI;
    Application
    People (Actually Presentation)
    Session
    Transport
    Network
    Data
    Physical
    :blink
     
  4. Weemez

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    Thats the one.

    A known way of trying to remember that is:

    All -Application layer
    People - Presentation layer
    Seem -Session layer
    To -Transport layer
    Need -Network layer
    Data -Data link layer
    Processing -Physical layer
     
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  5. Mr.Cheeks

    Mr.Cheeks 1st ever Gold Member! Gold Member

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    hmmm, i was havig a browse in the big bookstore, its massive, you sit down, grab drink and read whatever, and its free, anyway, i was having a browse at CCNP book, and it mentioned OSI then, thats why i was suprised to see OSI in N+...

    Is N+ basic networking, or does it go into detail, when i mean detail, would it give you ground understanding and knowledge for Cisco? btw: what is MS equiv to networking e.g. Cisco CCNP/A?
     
  6. Weemez

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    N+ gives you the foundation knowlege before going onto the CCNA/CCNP if you have no prior experience.

    The OSI model is the basic foundation on what a network is based on so it is required that this is understood before trying to learn anything more about networking, if not the whole thing will be unclear without this knowlege. A little like at the start of the A+ topics, if you dont understand the basic functions of the PC you will struggle to get your head round the rest of the topics covered.

    MS equivelent of CCNA/CCNP is the MCSE but these are quite different, as i havn't got there (yet!) i will leave it to somebody more qualified to explain this to you!! :biggrin
     
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  7. Boycie
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    I found N+ was a good follow on from A+, with a slight overlap to prepare you for future certs :thumbleft
     
    Certifications: MCSA 2003, MCDST, A+, N+, CTT+, MCT
  8. Mr.Cheeks

    Mr.Cheeks 1st ever Gold Member! Gold Member

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    that big bookstore i mentioned earlier... Waterstones
     
  9. Malnomates

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    Kinda glad you started this thread cheek.I'm scarilly close to taking my (AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGHH!!!) A+ OS exam and I'm looking forward to starting on the N+ trail,but not till I've partied on holiday in true Cardiffian stylie (Boyce knows where i'm coming from,you knows it!).I'll be haunting this forum soon enough aswell as hanging about the A+ forum,like a bad smell,so do me a favour ladies and gentlepersons-get to the bar before me,don't skimp in the savouries and be gentle,I'm still an N+ virgin!
     
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  10. Boycie
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    In my opinion, (started the 70-270 this week) the A+, N+ are great Certs to prepare you for an IT career or even swot up on what you know. I recently met an old school friend who has been in IT for about 8 years and he was shocked at the questions in a mock A+ test!
     
    Certifications: MCSA 2003, MCDST, A+, N+, CTT+, MCT
  11. Keimos

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    Hi TheCheekMaster,

    N+ covers most things networking, whereas A+ covers the hardware side such as NIC cards etc, N+ takes over from there.

    Against popular concepts, you can go straight to CCNA from A+ or equivalent experience. The only real difference between the two is that one is vendor neutral and one is the Cisco way.

    Check out the exam objectives if you think I'm crazy!!! :x

    Basically if you choose to leave your options open the N+ is a very useful qual to have. If you work for telecoms then go Cisco.

    Keimos
     
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  12. Mr.Cheeks

    Mr.Cheeks 1st ever Gold Member! Gold Member

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    Thanks for all your replies, at least im will definately be doing the N+...

    cheers...
     
  13. zimbo
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    I can tell you from now the Network+ will help you for MCSA/MCSE exams. Starting from 70-291. I have hit a brick wall as i have a gap in my knowledge and its going to have to be closed with a book from mr meyers on network+ all in one pretty soon because i wont be going anywhere further in 291. :rolleyes:

    Study and take the exam then you have an elective with A+ too! :biggrin
     
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  14. Lord Deckard

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    I too am currently studying for the N+ after passing the A+ but with not having as much practical experience of networking, some of it is taking a few attempts to get to stick in my head! Aside from the very obvious emphasis on the OSI, are any of the objectives in particular worth boning up on or should I make sure I know a bit of everthing? Anything that's more likely to come up? I hear a lot of people mentioning MACs cropping up. Is any particular OS concentrated on in the questions? Zimbo has mentioned the lab books in his self study thread and has anyone got any personal experiences of these? Do they help?

    Difficult question considering the exams cover different things but is the N+ a similar level of difficulty to the A+?

    Lord Deckard.
     
    Certifications: A+, MCDST
    WIP: N+ and CCNA

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