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MCTS and MCITP

Discussion in 'General Microsoft Certifications' started by bwicks12, Sep 9, 2012.

  1. bwicks12

    bwicks12 Bit Poster

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    Hey guys!

    I'm going ITILv3 Foundation at the moment and I'm going to be tackling some MS exams afterwards but was looking for some advice.

    I've purchased 7 books on the courses I plan on doing next but I'm not sure which would be the best order to start with.

    The books I have are as follows:

    MCTS 70-640 - Configuring Windows Server 2008 Active Directory
    MCTS 70-642 - Configuring Windows Server 2008 Network Infrastructure
    MCTS 70-643 - Configuring Windows Server 2008 Applications Infrastructure
    MCTS 70-680 - Configuring Windows 7

    MCITP 70-686 - Enterprise Desktop Administrator, Windows 7
    MCITP 70-685 - Enterprise Desktop Support Technician, Windows 7
    MCITP 70-647 - Windows Server 2008 Enterprise Administrator

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks
     
    Certifications: BTEC First Diploma for IT Practitioners, COMPTIA A+, TOSHIBA CSD PC Maintenence, CompTIA Network+
    WIP: ITILv3 Foundation, MCTS 70-680, 70-640, 70-642, 70-643 MCITP 70-647, 70-685, 70-686
  2. RichyV

    RichyV Megabyte Poster Forum Leader

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    Hi,

    that's a lot of work to get through!

    I'd start with either the 680 or 640, depending on which 'branch' you're more interested/versed in, either Client [680] or Server [640].

    Also, these are the 2 'starting points', for want of a better description, for the Client or Server branches of the MCITP cert.

    HTH
     
    Certifications: B.Sc.(Hons), MBCS. MCP (271,272), MCDST, MCTS (680), MCITP:EDST7, MCSA:WIN7, MCPS, MCNPS
    WIP: 70-686, then onto MCSE: Desktop Infrastructure via MCSA: Server 2012...
  3. bwicks12

    bwicks12 Bit Poster

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    Hi, yeah it is! but it'll be worth it!

    I'm kind of looking to do the ones that'll most likely land me a 1st line support role at this stage, I already hold CompTIA A+ and Network+ so I'm thinking that maybe the client ones may do that, I'm not so sure. I'm aiming to do 1 a month (I have ALOT of spare time)

    Thanks for the advice :)

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    I'm leaning more towards doing MCITP then MCTS, I'm guessing the administration side of things will get me into 1st line support.
     
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    Certifications: BTEC First Diploma for IT Practitioners, COMPTIA A+, TOSHIBA CSD PC Maintenence, CompTIA Network+
    WIP: ITILv3 Foundation, MCTS 70-680, 70-640, 70-642, 70-643 MCITP 70-647, 70-685, 70-686
  4. ade1982

    ade1982 Megabyte Poster Forum Leader

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    The MCITP is really looking to be outdated soon. For example, the MCITP in Windows 7 Enterprise Tech / Desktop Admin are being phased out next year. Look at the MCSA.
     
  5. SimonD

    SimonD Terabyte Poster Moderator

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    Sorry to be harsh but these certifications aren't intended for first line positions, these are intended for the 2nd\3rd line engineers and Microsoft advise that you have between 12 - 18 months experience with the technologies before attempting the certifications.

    If I were in your shoes I wouldn't be going for the MCITP (btw the MCTS exams form part of the MCITP track, you take the MCTS exams for the MCTS and then the Pro exam to get the MCITP) because you simply don't have the experience required for the track and you risk ruining your career chances if you have the certifications without the experience to back it up (in effect cheapening the exam track making it pretty much worthless).

    Unfortunately people don't understand what the reasoning behind certification is about, it's not a way of getting you a job in IT, it's generally designed to show your expertise in a particular subject matter, of course there are certifications aimed at introducing people to IT (the Microsoft MTA or the CompTIA A+, N+ for example) but the MCITP is not one of those exams\certifications.

    Please don't waste your time\money and please don't cheapen off the track because there are some of us who have invested both time and money to get these exams and want them to mean something rather than nothing.
     
    Certifications: CNA | CNE | CCNA | MCP | MCP+I | MCSE NT4 | MCSA 2003 | Security+ | MCSA:S 2003 | MCSE:S 2003 | MCTS:SCCM 2007 | MCTS:Win 7 | MCITP:EDA7 | MCITP:SA | MCITP:EA | MCTS:Hyper-V | VCP 4 | ITIL v3 Foundation | VCP 5 DCV | VCP 5 Cloud | VCP6 NV | VCP6 DCV | VCAP 5.5 DCA
    WIP: VCP6-CMA, VCAP-DCD and Linux + (and possibly VCIX-NV).
  6. bwicks12

    bwicks12 Bit Poster

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    Couldn't see that on their website, though I noticed some of the Server 2008 ones will be, but tbh I'd rather get Server 2008 first then do server 2012 later as tbh I can't see how any organization would be willing to adopt a newly released OS.
     
    Certifications: BTEC First Diploma for IT Practitioners, COMPTIA A+, TOSHIBA CSD PC Maintenence, CompTIA Network+
    WIP: ITILv3 Foundation, MCTS 70-680, 70-640, 70-642, 70-643 MCITP 70-647, 70-685, 70-686
  7. ade1982

    ade1982 Megabyte Poster Forum Leader

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  8. RichyV

    RichyV Megabyte Poster Forum Leader

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    Maybe I should have explained it better.

    The MCTS exams are 'one-offs', as in you only need to complete that exam to gain MCTS:"insert title here".

    Whereas the MCITP certs are always multiple exams (sometimes several MCTS exams plus one more...).

    For example, the MCITP: "Enterprise Desktop Support Technician" consists of 680 PLUS 685, so you will always earn one or more MCTS certs on the way to gaining an MCITP.
     
    Certifications: B.Sc.(Hons), MBCS. MCP (271,272), MCDST, MCTS (680), MCITP:EDST7, MCSA:WIN7, MCPS, MCNPS
    WIP: 70-686, then onto MCSE: Desktop Infrastructure via MCSA: Server 2012...
  9. RichyV

    RichyV Megabyte Poster Forum Leader

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    Certifications: B.Sc.(Hons), MBCS. MCP (271,272), MCDST, MCTS (680), MCITP:EDST7, MCSA:WIN7, MCPS, MCNPS
    WIP: 70-686, then onto MCSE: Desktop Infrastructure via MCSA: Server 2012...
  10. ade1982

    ade1982 Megabyte Poster Forum Leader

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    Yeah, that really is good news!
     

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