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MCSE and Computer Science Degree

Discussion in 'General Microsoft Certifications' started by toshiba145, Jul 26, 2010.

  1. toshiba145

    toshiba145 Nibble Poster

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    Hi,


    I am panning to do MCSE starting in september.
    Done some research to where to study but got confused.

    Saw that some colleges courses are 1/2years long.
    Whereas some are just 16/20 weeks long.

    Prices of both types are the same.
    Also topics/exams etc are the same

    I am not really sure which one should i go to.

    Can you people pls advise me.




    Secondly,
    Was wondering if i could do computer science with my certifications i got.

    Going to be 19yrs at the end of this year. Planning to go uni next year.
    I have just been A+ and CCNA Qualified. Planning to do MCSE during this year.
    I am a bit confused to whether to do a degree or not and if i can do a degree.
    Some people say it good doing a degree and some opposite.

    I have got my 5 GCSEs. But i left my left college during the end of 1st year as both
    teachers and college itself was not good.

    So in my year two i done my certifications.

    So can you people pls advice me if could go into uni with my gcses and certification but without alevels.

    Also is it worth doing computer science if i got these certifications?
    Will it contribute me to get a good job?



    Or am i doing too much with a+, ccna, mcse and he degree?


    thanks
     
    Certifications: A+, CCNA
    WIP: MCITP
  2. greenbrucelee
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    Having high level certs like the CCNA and MCSE can go against when applying for jobs if you have no experience.

    The CCNA is for people who already work with cisco gear, the MCSE is for people who have been systems engineers for atleast 12-18 months.

    There is no harm in learning the material but getting the certifications can do you harm.

    I dont know about college courses as I am self studying all my certs. And no certs dont count towards points in a degree.
     
    Certifications: A+, N+, MCDST, Security+, 70-270
    WIP: 70-620 or 70-680?
  3. toshiba145

    toshiba145 Nibble Poster

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    Yeah other than certifications i got no experience in real world.
    What do you think is the best way forward for me?

    thanks for the reply
     
    Certifications: A+, CCNA
    WIP: MCITP
  4. greenbrucelee
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    A+,Network+ and MCDST do your degree and get a part time job in IT whilst your studying. This is how I would now do it if I could go back in time.

    Regardless of your qualifications and certifications employers really want experience so you need this.
     
    Certifications: A+, N+, MCDST, Security+, 70-270
    WIP: 70-620 or 70-680?
  5. toshiba145

    toshiba145 Nibble Poster

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    yeah i am thinkking of doing degree next year,
    but not sure i will be accepted as i dont have alevels.

    Any one from uk know if i can get into uni with my certifications and not my alevels.


    thanks
     
    Certifications: A+, CCNA
    WIP: MCITP
  6. greenbrucelee
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    I didn't have A levels but I had nvqs and GNVQs. Certs wont help you
     
    Certifications: A+, N+, MCDST, Security+, 70-270
    WIP: 70-620 or 70-680?
  7. bazzawood30

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    If the certs are relevant to the degree they may well help. A CCNA can be counted towards a degree with some uni's the OU offer 60 credits for a CCNA.
     
    Certifications: ECDL,A+,N+,CCENT,CCNA,MCP,MCDST
  8. dmarsh

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    Certs don't count towards your entry requirements to enrol on a standard degree course.

    You will generally need to complete an A-level style qualification like a GNVQ or BTEC, these can then lead to entry onto a foundation degree or full honours degree.

    You will normally need so many UCAS points to apply to a degree as a non mature student.

    Alternatively some universities allow you to complete a foundation year prior to starting the degree.

    See here :-

    http://www.brunel.ac.uk/courses/ug/entry

    Certifications and degress have various different advantages and disadvantages, read around the forum using the search feature.

    What interests you about computers or IT ? What type of job do you wish to do ?

    If you want to work in IT support I would agree that generally getting an IT job and doing a foundation degree part time might be a better option than fulltime study. However if you can't get an IT job in the current climate a fulltime degree starts to look more appealing and maybe try to supplement it with as much work experience you can get.
     
    Last edited: Jul 27, 2010
    Certifications: CITP, BSc, HND, SCJP, SCJD, SCWCD, SCBCD, SCEA, N+, Sec+, Proj+, Server+, Linux+, MCTS, MCPD, MCSA, MCITP, CCDH

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