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MCSE 2003 to MCSE 2008

Discussion in 'General Microsoft Certifications' started by Node, Dec 30, 2007.

  1. Node

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    I was wandering if anyone has made the upgrade yet and if yes was it hard at all? What kind of questions were their?

    Also has anyone done 070-620 Vista yet? I have just booked it for the end of feb, what study materials did you use? Any tips?

    Regards

    Node
     
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  2. wizard

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    It's not actually going to be called MSCE 2008, MCSE is being replaced by MCTS.
     
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  3. Luddym

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    I've been looking into it since seeing this thread, and I must say it is an interesting prospect.

    With MCSE 2000, you had to take two exams to upgrade to 2003 right? 292 - 296.


    If you have an MCSE on 2003, you get 3 MCTS with the one exam. 70-649TS

    MCTS: Windows Server 2008 Active Directory Configuration
    MCTS: Windows Server 2008 Network Infrastructure Configuration
    MCTS: Windows Server 2008 Application Platform Configuration


    But if you are MCSA on 2003 you can get 2 of the same MCTS with one exam. 70-648TS

    MCTS: Windows Server 2008 Active Directory Configuration
    MCTS: Windows Server 2008 Network Infrastructure Configuration


    I know that it isn't really an upgrade to MCSE 2008, but as the sort of equivalent does it make sense to compact so much into one exam, especially with the 70-649?
     
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  4. Node

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    i was told it was 5 exams to upgrade :S Isnt MCSE = MCITP? OR do we have to do more exams if we wish to turn it into an MCITP? this is a bit of a joke really :S
     
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  5. Luddym

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    It gets a little in depth after a while, not as simple as the 'MCSE is x Exams, x core and x elective.'

    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcitp/entsupport/default.mspx


    The above is the link for the MCITP for Enterprise Support Technician, which only takes 2 Exams:

    the 70-620
    the 70-622

    The 70-620 is the Vista exam, so most people are going to need to take that one anyway at some point.

    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcitp/vista/consumer/default.mspx

    The above link is for a consumer support technician, which again is only 2 exams, one being the 70-620, the other being the 70-623.
     
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  6. tripwire45
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    I guess that means all of the tutorial websites and forums that marketed themselves using "MCSE" as part of their name are now SOL. :wink:
     
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  7. wizard

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    Hmmm :)
     
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  8. wagnerk
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    There is no MCSE 2k8 or MCSA 2k8.

    In the 2008 route the equivalent cert/cred of the MCSE 2k3 would be the MCITP: Enterprise Admin and the equivalent cert/cred of the MCSA 2k3 would be the MCITP: Server Admin. The MCTS would be the individual exams (similar to the MCP exams in the NT/2k and 2k3 route).

    If you're a MCSA 2k3 then you only need to take 2 exams, the 70-648 (see my post here) and the 70-646. Instead of the standard 3 exams.

    If you're a MCSE 2k3 then you need to take 3 exams, the 70-649 (see my post here), the 70-620 or the 70-624, and the 70-647. Instead of the standard 5 exams.

    As for your questions if they were hard, in my opinion "Yes, very..." as I failed both of them.

    Oh and if you're a MCDST then you only need to take 1 exam the 70-621 to get the MCITP: EST cred.

    As for the 70-620, you can read here and here about my experience. I used the same (more or less) material for both exams.

    -Ken

    External/internal references:
    From MS, see here or here.
    From peoples experience, see here for search.
    For my experiences, see the above hyperlinks.
     
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  9. Node

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    Thanks for the help, so let me summarise everything, sorry if im a bit slow :)

    70-649 ?? What does this cover?

    70-620
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    MCTS: Windows Vista, Configuring

    70-647
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    MCTS: Windows Server 2008 Active Directory Configuration
    MCTS: Windows Server 2008 Network Infrastructure Configuration
    MCTS: Windows Server 2008 Application Platform Configuration

    So by sitting the following exams 70-649, 70-620 and the 70-647 you will achieve the following certs:
    MCITP: Enterprise Admin
    MCITP: Server Admin

    Is MCTS the replacement for MCP?

    Thanks!
     
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  10. BosonMichael
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    The MCTS is *sorta* the replacement for MCP. The MCP was achieved by taking any Microsoft exam. The MCTS is achieved by taking one or more exams, depending on the MCTS title you are pursuing.

    70-649 covers everything found in 70-640, 70-642, and 70-643. (For those interested, 70-648 covers two of those three exams: 70-640 and 70-642.)
     
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  11. Tinus1959

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    I did 70-620 a few months ago. I used "Microsoft Windows Vista Client Configuration Study Guide: Exam 70-620" co-written by our own Bosonmichael. I used no other stuff (other than the program itself) and passed with 950+ points.
     
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