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MCSA, 70-680 and certs on my CV

Discussion in 'General Microsoft Certifications' started by Dexter, Dec 13, 2009.

  1. Dexter

    Dexter Nibble Poster

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    HI guys

    I'm seriously thinking about doing the 70-680 and was just wondering what opinions are flying around about it at the moment. I'm slowly plodding my way towards my MCSA and kinda see the 70-680 as an opportunity. I mean if I do the 270 it'll be easier, having worked with XP professionally and having the MCDST etc, but it just seems like a missed opportunity, and with the 680 you get a MCTS which will look nice on the CV. If I do the 270 I only get another MCP right? I also think that the 680 will take me into the future and is gunna last for quite a few years seeing as windows 7 isn't long out. It just seems a shame to go over territory that I've already done with the MCDST. What do you guys think?

    On a slightly different note I also wanted to ask about listing certs on your CV. I currently only list my MCDST with no mention of a MCP but I've kinda become aware that people are listing both. Is this just filling up space on your CV is it valuable to specify the MCP too?

    cheers :)
     
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  2. Bluerinse
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    The reason people do this is because most recruiters don't have the foggiest idea about the certification progression path and many think the MCP, is the top of the pile :wink:
     
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  3. TommyTee

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    forgive me, but is an MCP - microsoft certified professional anyone that has completed a MS exam? so say you just did one MCTS you would be considered an MCP?
     
  4. SimonD

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    The MCP is the older title given to the certifications, that's now been superceded by MCTS and MCITP (essentially the MCITP replaces the MCSE as the nearly top tier certification).

    If you have an MCTS then use that rather than the MCP title as that's actually what you have (strangely enough the MS website for all certs is still MCP however).

    As far as placing the certs on the CV, go for it (I certainly do) however be warned that having too many certs and not enough experience can actually go against you.
     
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  5. TommyTee

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    Is it me or does Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist (MCTS) sound like it's higher than a Microsoft Certified IT Professional (MCITP) , I guess just cus "Specialist" sounds more advanced than "Professional"
     
  6. wagnerk
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    You do not gain the MCP credential if you pass the MCTS, but you gain entry into the MCP program.

    Agreed :)

    -Ken
     
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  7. simonp83

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    Dexter, what about doing the upgrade exam (70-685) and this will give you both the 680 and the 685. 685 is a much more advanced exam though over the basic client exam so you will need experience to back this up.
     
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  8. TommyTee

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    I was looking at some of the mcts/mcitp paths, seems that you pick up so many certs this way, like if you were to go for an enterprise admin, you would pick up a total of 7 certs on this route.
     
  9. wagnerk
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    The 70-685 is not an upgrade exam. If you already have the MCDST, the upgrade exam is the 70-682.

    -Ken
     
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  10. simonp83

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    Oops, sorry, wrong exam number, knew it was the 682 so not sure why i put the 685 in brackets :oops::blink
     
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  11. wagnerk
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    'Cause today is the equivalent to a Monday, due to the Bank Holiday :biggrin

    -Ken
     
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  12. Col

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    On a sort of related note, what's the thinking on downloading certification logos and placing them on your CV? Is this a good idea, or the act of an arch ****?
     
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  13. wagnerk
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    That is both a personal preference of both you and the company that you apply to. On ocassions (so not all the time) I do put a logo on my cover letter, but not on my CV - again due to personal preference.

    However I do keep a selection of logo's on my PC, just in case :)

    -Ken
     
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  14. BosonMichael
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    I put a few logos on the upper right corner of my resume, opposite my name/address/phone/e-mail info.
     
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  15. TommyTee

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    you could have a whole page dedicated to just certs.

    Kinda related but on a CV is there any opinion on how to express qualifications.

    e.g:

    MCTS Win7 or Microsoft Certified Technological Specialist: Windows 7, configuration
    CCNA or Ciscon Certified...
    etc
     
  16. GSteer

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    Ditto here, although it's only MCP / MBCS at the moment but it's a nice attention grabber.

    Also RE: the query above about listing MCP as well as MCSA etc, it is a good idea as if you're applying online a fair few agencies etc use search techniques on the CVs without actually reading them fully (at least this is what I've gathered from various sources) so if the MCP isn't there it doesn't flag up.
     
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  17. supernova

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    Like some sort of onomatopoeia?
     
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  18. Asterix

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    I woul dlove to see Boston Michaels CV :p
     
  19. BosonMichael
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    Shoot me your e-mail address and I'll strip out the confidential details and send it to you.
     
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  20. simonp83

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    Be ready for a 15mb word document and a good 2 hours of reading time? :blink
     
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