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MCITP Overview

Discussion in 'General Microsoft Certifications' started by Eagle985, Jan 29, 2011.

  1. Eagle985

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    Hello Everyone,

    I am willing to start studying for MCITP certification since I was advised to go for it instead of MSCE since MCSE is about Microsoft 2003 whereas MCITP is about Microsoft 2007/2008. Do you agree with this? Is MCITP like a newer version of MCSE?

    Moreover, as I remember hearing from some friends that MSCE was about sitting for 7 exams. Checking the Microsoft website, I noticed that the case is different for MCITP where it is divided to several certifications. You can sit for MCITP Server Admin, MCITP Database Admin, MCITP Enterprise admin... Is this right?

    Thank you
     
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  2. SimonD

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    Why do you want to get an MCSE or MCITP? What's your Windows Server experience?

    As far as going for one over the other I would ask the question which OS are you using more?

    If it's 2003 Server then go for the 2003 MCSE, if it's 2008 then go for the MCITP.

    As far as exams go, you would need to do 5 for the EA exam and 3 for the SA exam.

    I would also warn you that both the MCSE and MCITP SA expect you to have 12 - 18 months of experience as a Windows Server Administrator, the EA expects you to have further exposure to additional Microsoft technologies (know about and understand SCCM, SCOM, WDS and MDT).

    These exams have stopped being the entry level exams that older MCSE's were and really do expect you to know and understand the technologies in use.
     
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  3. greenbrucelee
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    Someone who goes for the MCITP eill be doing it in area to validate their job experience so someone who administers server 2008 will do MCITP 2008, someone who supports and managers windows vista and windows 7 will do the MCITP in vista and 7

    Someone who goes for the MCSE supports and maintains lots of servers over a multi user domain environment.

    Do not think that just because MCITP is newer then its better than the MCSE

    regardless of what you go for you should have on the job experience before doing any of them well apart from the vista and 7 exams
     
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    GBL, again half with you and half not with you! I got my MCSA whilst just a helpdesk tech but once the Infrastructure guys knew that I understood the concepts then they rooted for me to move off the helpdesk and into the server/networking side.

    Seriously GBL, anecdotal evidence is far better than speculating that someone will be "worse" off with regards to studying a product. Also, do not forget about the ability to "talk" and "soft skills". In my experience, employers have been more interested in "soft skills". And why? Well a lot of my predecessors were technically brilliant but were also complete a-holes to the other employees in the firm!
     
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  5. greenbrucelee
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    Totally agree dude, I was merley trying to point out to the op that being over certified for their experience level is not a good idea. Whilst you studied and made yourself known not many other people do this they go for the high level certs and expect to jomp into the good stuff straight away. We dont even know the OP experience level thats why I said about experience etc.
     
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  6. BosonMichael
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    Understood. But Microsoft says that you should have on-the-job experience before pursuing the MCSA or MCSE, and I agree with them.

    Just my (and Microsoft's) opinion.
     
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  7. Rob1234

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    They also say that about MCDST in actual fact I do not think there is a Microsoft exam where they do not say you should have experience?
     
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  8. BosonMichael
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    You're likely right. However, anyone who has been in the industry for a while knows what exams are truly "entry-level" and what exams are designed for someone with experience.
     
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  9. Rob1234

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    Yeah I get what your saying, just makes me laugh when people quote Microsoft wanting experience for certs when it suits them and ignore Microsoft's advice when it don't.
     
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  10. BosonMichael
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    I get where you're coming from. However, speaking for myself, I don't agree with everything Microsoft says! ;) So, when I agree with them, I'll point people to those recommendations.

    Hey, if people want to follow Microsoft's recommendations for the MCDST, they are free to do so! :thumbleft
     
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  11. Phoenix
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    To answer your initial question
    MCITP: Enterprise Administrator is probably the closest thing to an MCSE of old, albiet without the client requirement

    Microsoft moved to a more technology/job role based setup, thats not to say you could not have an MCITP in Windows 7 and the EA and EMA10 if you do all those jobs
    and it is a fine goal to have, however as others have said, it's not really step one up the ladder
    you will gain MCTS after your first test if you work towards it, it can take up to a year to gain a full MCITP:EA, and would require relevant experience
     
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  12. BosonMichael
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    I thought EA had a client requirement... it was SA that didn't (which was something I found to be rather odd, as EAs are far less likely to mess with clients than SAs :blink).

    EDIT: Yup - link
     
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