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MCDST for MCSA but not MCSE??

Discussion in 'MCDST' started by Venice, Aug 11, 2006.

  1. Venice

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    Hi Guys

    I'm planning to take the MCDST next month and one of the main reasons is because it's an elective for the MCSA :) but I was looking at the requirements for an MCSE and as far as I can see the MCDST doesn't count towards it(!)


    Am I reading this right? :eek: seems odd to me and means to upgrade from an MCDST-MCSA to an MSCE you need to take 1 more exam than other MSCA holders??


    Thanks for your help - great site btw! the self-study FAQ by zimbo is worth its weight in gold! :biggrin
     
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  2. zimbo
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    Hi and welcome to CF!:biggrin

    glad you found the guide useful!:D

    yeah you looking right.. mcdst is only an elective for mcsa and not mcse - i think the reason being microsoft wouldnt expect an mcse to be doing mcdst work (its actually in their ms press book) they work on different levels apparently - but in alot of real world cases the mcse sometimes and very often does do mcdst work.

    i took it as my elective and to be honest i dont mind doing one more exam should i one decide to upgrade...
     
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  3. mattwest

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    But am i right in thinking once you are an MCSA, regardless you can take the 3 exams to upgrade the MCSA to an MCSE...

    My thinking is that you would have to sit those 3 exams regardless, so the MCDST not being an electrive isn't really a problem??

    :rolleyes:
     
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  4. zimbo
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    to upgrade from MCSA and you have MCDST as your elective you need to sit:

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    and your elective - so if you dont do MCDST and choose an elective for both MCSA and MCSE you only do 3
     
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  5. Venice

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    Hi zimbo

    Thanks for the clarification, I was hoping I was wrong though! :biggrin

    So it seems if you attain an MCSA using MCDST as an elective you need to take an addition 4 exams to get to MCSE whereas MCSA people who've taken a joint elective only need to take 3 exams! :dry

    That's pretty harsh for Microsoft to do that, an MCSA should be an MCSA whatever the elective and not hinder people from upgrading to an MCSE

    oh well, something else for people to consider when taking the MCDST I guess.... kinda makes me wonder if I should have just gone straight to studying for the 270 and skipping the MCDST now :(
     
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  6. zimbo
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    No i think doing MCDST is very good before MCSA - regardless of the elective situation. The whole of MCDST prepares you for 270 and future MS exams... because it will give you a good understanding of Windows XP before you move onto more complex issues in 270 and will show you how MS do their style of exams and how to prepare for them.
     
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  7. Leehaa

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    Here here!
     
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  8. Venice

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    ok, I decided to stick with the MCDST as an elective for MSCA and yesterday passed 271 with a score of 916

    I have no idea how I managed to pass with a good score though as the questions in the exam seemed really difficult compared to the ones that came with the MS Press Book

    There were some weird security and server questions which didn't relate to my study material so I'm kind of annoyed at that little "trick" by Microsoft.... I hope that isn't something they do in every exam :dry


    Anyway, I should stop complaining now as I did pass afterall! :biggrin


    hopefully I'll pass the next part in a month or two, it'll be kinda cool to have an official Microsoft title to put on my CV :)
     
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  9. Boycie
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    Well done on the pass :thumbleft

    Si
     
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  10. riaz.hasan

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    congrats on the pass :) !
     
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  11. Venice

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    ok, I just got back from doing the 272 and passed thankfully.... though slightly disappointed with the score, only got 836

    I rushed my study for this exam and only used one resource - the MS Press Book. What I'm really annoyed at myself about though is that I STUPIDLY didn't go back and spend more time on Wireless and Exchange even though I *knew* I was weak in those areas and had a feeling Microsoft would spring those questions on me! :rolleyes:

    Anyway, a pass is a pass I guess.... so I'm finally a fully qualified MCDST and also one quarter of the way to getting my MCSA :clap
     
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  12. nugget
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    Congrats on the pass mate. :thumbleft
     
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  13. Sparky
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    You set yourself high standards! If I got 836 for the rest of the MCPs towards MCSE Id be happy! :biggrin

    Congrats on the pass! :biggrin
     
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  14. C_Eagle

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    Well done on passing 271 & 272!

    I headed straight for the 270 and am now thinking of doing the 271 and 272 while it's still fresh to get the MCDST.

    Is it worth it? Or should I just carry on to 70-290

    (By the way the company will pay so exam fee's aren't a factor)
     
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  15. zimbo
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    do the MCDST!

    1. Its an elective for MCSA
    2. Its another cert - much easier than 270's exam
    3. Vista's new certs will have one exam upgrades for existing MCDSTS!
     
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