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looking to start route to mcse

Discussion in 'General Microsoft Certifications' started by dengor, Apr 7, 2006.

  1. dengor

    dengor New Member

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    hi, new to forum.

    i am looking to start my journey towards an mcse, and would like some advice and recommendations as to how to start.

    i am a partner in a chain of internet gaming cafes in the uk, and have had 3 years semi hands on experience with windows xp client and some VERY basic knowledge with windows servers.

    what is normal route to get to an msce? ie. which certs come first?

    how should i study for these? home study or course?

    thanks and hope i can be like most of you some day :biggrin
     
  2. Keimos

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    Hi dengor,

    Welcome to the forum, I am new myself so just wait for the more experienced members to answer your question, here are my thoughts.

    First of all get more involved on the hands on side, particaularly the servers.

    Then go for MCSA, before even thinking about MCSE.

    Your experience is in admin, which is why I would suggest that.

    MCSE, what experience have you got of working with 1,000 stations + ? Thats what people are looking for in a MCSE together with a minimum of 5 years experience, with at least two years in that sort of environment.

    It really does depend on you level of experience as to what is the best answer.

    Keimos
     
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  3. Sparky
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    That’s the requirements for becoming MCSE 2003 certified:
    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/windows2003/

    Why are you wanting to pursue the MCSE route? Do you want to get more involved with the technical side of the job you are currently in or move into a new job?

    Really? Some clients just ask me if I’m certified, others ask of similar projects (to the one they are requesting) to show I’ve got experience in that particular field. No “have you got five years experience and worked with 1,000 plus workstations” comments so far. :biggrin
     
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  4. dengor

    dengor New Member

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    i want to pursue the mcse because i do want to be more hands on with the technical side of my business. also, i think if i can achieve this, it prepares me for when i need to go back out into the real world :biggrin
     
  5. simongrahamuk
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    simongrahamuk Hmmmmmmm?

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    The MCSE is not a cert for the faint hearted, it is a high level cert that takes many years of practical experience with the various products to achieve. Start off with where you have existing experience.

    You have experience with XP, so look at the MCDST or the 70-270 MCP on windows XP and go from there. You will find that there is quite a lot of information on the client exams that actually covers the server topics, so this will give you an insight of what you will be looking at doing when you get there.

    You will need to be hands on, buying some books and reading them simply isn't enough. Get yourself the software and get it played with, do all of the labs in your study books and then doe them again. Practice what you are reading whilst you are still reading it!
     
  6. dengor

    dengor New Member

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    thx for that.

    i will definitely start of with mcdst or 70 - 270 mcp first. i have 60 networked pcs to play with in my centres. so i will have hands on experience.

    would i waste the basic exams if i decide that i dont want to pursue this path further?
     
  7. simongrahamuk
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    simongrahamuk Hmmmmmmm?

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    Not at all, each MS exam is valuable in its own right. I have MCP's that count towards the MCSE, but personally don't want to go any further to get the MCSE. I sat the certs because I was interested in the subject.

    8)
     
  8. Modey

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    Which gaming cafe chain is it that you are involved with Dengor? I used to manage one myelf a few years ago, The IT Centre in Northampton. We hosted quite a few big CS CPL events in our time.

    I don't miss it though. :)
     
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  9. dengor

    dengor New Member

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    hi modey,

    its www.cybergameszone.com. weve held quite a few too after you guys stopped :P

    hate doing those cs tournies!!
     
  10. Modey

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    Not heard of that chain Dengor, like the website though, very nice.

    I actually enjoyed the pressure of organising and running the CPL events. It was the day to day stuff that I got bored with. Our centre was much more than just a gaming place though, lot of other stuff going on, that wasn't that interesting or fullfilling to be honest. All over with now, so never mind. :)

    GL with your studies btw.
     
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  11. dengor

    dengor New Member

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    thx m8!
     

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