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Longhorn May Be A Yearly Subscription Service?

Discussion in 'Software' started by Mitzs, Apr 29, 2005.

  1. Mitzs
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    You guys are welcome to add your 2 cents if you like.

    http://www.tech-unity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5716&page=1&pp=10
     
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  2. tripwire45
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    Gee mitzs...wonder where you snagged *that* piece of info? :tongue
     
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    Im sure this move will persuade people to move to other operating systems or just stick with what they have. i know i for one, will not be paying a subscription for an OS.

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  4. AJ

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    We pay a yearly agreement already, as part of our "Schools Agreement".

    I think we pay a fee for each computer whether or not it is a pc just that it is on the network. There is a set fee for the OS, Office, server licences and loads of other M$ stuff we use. We have something like 600 machines in the school (inc servers) and we pay something like £22K per year to licences.
     
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    First I think it is crap the prices they charge for schools to use their products. A bussiness, yes, a school, no!
    And I really don't want to pay for an os on home comp either.
     
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    I think you mean you'd rather not pay a yearly subscription. Obviously, if you buy a company's product, they have the right to charge you a fee to purchase it. Of course, you could just download Fedora Core 3 for free and be done with it. :tongue
     
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    Well, this woudl be an extremly bad move for M$. With all the competion that M$ has emerging on the market, there are allot of alternative cheap or free OS's. A move such as this would simply push lot's of people into the waiting arms of competitors. M$ already charge way to much for their products if you ask me.

    I'm with stu_c on this one, I would not pay a yearly fee to have the pleasure of constantly patching an OS. lol
     
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  9. Mitzs
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    Well, I was really looking forward to longhorn. But not if I have to pay every year to use it. I can't afford that. And If I have to learn and use linux bitch mode will not even be the word for me...
     
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    i remember reading somewhere that longhorn was to have a popular antivirus package built in. Maybe this is the subscription they are refering to?
     
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    Hi all

    Well so far it appears to be rumour...I doubt that M$ are dumb enough to put themselves out of business...especially after coming this far! But then again, people said that the Titanic was unsinkable...so who knows? I for one am looking forward to Longhorns release...with baited breath...lol :)!!!

    As for dishing out money for OS's, XP Pro is the only Os I have actually bought. I decided to purchase it because I noticed, in 2003, that M$ had got out of the habit of releasing an OS every year. So 100 sheets was worth it for an os with what looks to be a 5 year life span! If M$ could stick to this sort of doctrine then I'm sure, just like XP, longhorn will be a winner.

    I suppose we will see...

    Cheers

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    well i am sorry but I wouldnt pay a subscription fee for any OS let alone MS own. it will only make people want to use other Os's or stick the one they already have. I am looking forward to Longhorn being released but if its going to be a yearly charge then this is one sucker who wont buy it...sort it out Bill how much more money do you want?
     
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  13. AJ

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    I think we pay something in the region of £22k (approx $40k) and that gives us the rights to most of the M$ apps for use in school and for staff to use for work purposes at home (ahem :oops: ). Plus we will get Longhorn when it comes out for free?????


    I went to a show a couple of years ago and the M$ rep was talking about licencing. He said that M$ products are actually free and that you pay for the licence to use that product. So if that is the case then the yearly subscription fee is just a logical extension of that. Agree or disagree what worries me is that we are all going to study for the M$ exams in one form or another and this is just another expence that our pockets are going to shell out for. :x
     
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    I've seen a work-in-progress version of Longhorn and it's great. It looks as if it will 'evolve' from Win 2003 by installing a few service packs. While that's great for 2003 users, as it will be a seamless transition, it means that like XP service pack 2 it will be really hard to stop your business getting it if you don't want it...
    So if they do charge an annual subscription there's not much anyone can do about it. Spooky.
    I'd be surprised if Microsoft did make such a radical departure from their normal licensing arrangement.
    I know they have a fearsome money-grabbing reputation (allegedly) but if you join their partner program or look at their training material it's amazing what they just give away.
     
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    Oh, and yes, it will be early.
    (That's Microsoft speak for 'on time')
     
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    Johnny do you work for ms or just a big supporter of them?
     
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    its nice to actually see some mature discussion rather than the pathetic microsoft bashing you see on most other forums, thanks for your input johnny,
    i've also played about with the longhorn test builds, although to be honest it looks pretty much like XP with a side bar, and with the features they are chopping out left right and center, half the exciting under the hood stuff has gone, so perhaps it is just XP with a sidebar lol
    the Avalon stuff looks very interesting, as DID the WinFS which they have apparantly dropped from longhorn in exchange for NTFS with transaction logs or the like, sounds interesting, basically it will enable better performand by writing transactions in blocks rather than all the time, if its intelligent enough it should be able to re arange thsoe transactions so that those on similar portions of the disk write together, although that may be passed off to hardware functionality such as NCQ on the newer SATA disks
     
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  18. JonnyMX

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    Supporter. Thing is, when you decide to get certified you generally have to take the Microsoft route.
    You may as well embrace it whole heartedly and reap the benefits, rather than fight it. Action Pack gives you about £16,000 worth of software for a tiny annual subscription along with all the news and updates you ever need. Have you had a play with their virtual labs? They're free too.
    I know plenty of people who are pro Microsoft, and plenty who are completely anti. I can tell you who has the easier life.
     
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    BTW.
    Anyone else notice the sudden end to the Windows 2000 lifespan? Ending June for client and November for server...
    This looks like an effort to get everyone on to 2003 before Longhorn.
     
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