Linux or Microsoft?

Discussion in 'Linux+' started by bradwmetal, Jun 30, 2011.

  1. bradwmetal

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    Is there any value to pursuing Linux+? I would like to look at getting some Microsoft and Linux out of they way at the same time I pursue work. Is there any reason to get both, or should I go a different direction?
     
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  2. JonnyMX

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    There is value is pursuing most things, depending on your interests.
    It depends on what you work with, have experience with and want to work with in the future.
    Just don't fall into the trap of asking which one is most likely to get you a job or make you rich.

    Linux+ is just one cert, so you choose to do it or not. MS on the other hand offers a vast array of certifications which will be a lot harder to get your teeth into.
     
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    Oh, and if anyone replies with 'sheep, LOL', I'm reporting your post.
    Racially offensive, that is.

    :dry



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  4. Apexes

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    As Jonny said, going for a sheep, er... Linux cert is only one cert, and microsoft do cack loads - it won't necesarily certify you in creating linux mail servers, hosting applications, etc etc - in fact i'm not entirely sure what it does cover, but i dont imagine it'd be everything that you'd need in a work enviornment, only the basics.

    If you are planning on going into working with linux, still a good one to get none the less
     
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  5. sheepluv

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    whats wrong with sheep? :biggrin
     
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  6. sheepluv

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    There are higher certs ie. LPIC-2 and 3

    LPIC-1 (same as Linux+ now I think?) is not an easy cert but does cover more the basics. Mail server etc.. I cant remember I havent done the Cert yet but got the material, you may do some Sendmail IIRC which is a type of Mail server service/daemon etc.
     
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  7. Apexes

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    Ah, wasn't aware of that, i stand corrected :)
     
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  8. mcrilly

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    From what I've read in recent days, this is correct.

    The Linux certifications available, which aren't as numerous as Microsoft certifications, are designed to teach you about the operating systems and the parts that make it work, such as the kernel and compiling it and modules for it; installing new hardware; debugging malfunctioning hardware; installing packages and removing packages using the native package manager (if applicable); and various other operating system specific things. A certification will not likely, for example, teach you how-to make Debian authenticate against an LDAP server. Understanding how to install a mail server or a web server on Linux comes simply with experience and experimentation - you pick up these applications, read the manual, install them and go from there.

    Microsoft offer a huge range of certifications to cover all of their technologies. So you can get a certificate in Windows Server 2008, and nothing else or you can couple it with a certificate in Microsoft Exchange. Microsoft offer a certificate for each of their technologies, allowing you to specialise quite specifically.

    With regards to which is more lucrative. Well neither is more lucrative than the other because a job either wants a Linux administrator or a Microsoft administrator (or both), so each certification and their cousins hold different weights based on the job you're applying for.

    Sadly the entire question is ambiguous because of the broad nature of each subject, and the multitude of variables to consider when going for jobs.
     
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  10. mcrilly

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    The Linux+ is now "Linux+ Power by LPI". When you get your Linux+, you can apply for your LPIC-1 as well. I think this means, in short, that the Linux+ syllabus is based on the LPIC-1 syllabus now.
     
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  11. sheepluv

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    Yeh I agree, you learn the framework of tools and you can then create what you need. Very diverse operating system but harder to do as result of it being a lower level approach. I personally prefer Linux approach but realise you can a lot with the MS stuff and there is plenty of jobs out there for that, so ideally cover both and dig as deep as I need to depending on whats required.
     
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  12. mcrilly

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    The sad truth is Microsoft's offerings are almost plug & play. That's not to say they're simple and anyone can get them in place and working, they do require skill and experience, but they're very polished and shiny solutions. Linux on the other hand is a rough diamond that needs to be cleaned, polished and seated correctly to make it work. These processes generally require more time and skill to get right but the results are a lot cheaper, more flexible and, once implemented, also allows a better expansion in the future.
     
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    Some Linux providers like Red Hat also provide different certifications if you're looking to back up your experience.
     
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  14. bradwmetal

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    And what, My friend is wrong with a sheep or two??? ...... ummmm uhhhh never mind ..... hehehehe
     
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    Sheepluv,
    Is that an Amiga 500 in your avatar?? I have one in storage .. with its huge side attached SCSI hard drive ...with a whopping storage of 50 Megabytes!
     
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    Thanks for the Posts everyone. I suppose it was a very vague question though. Let me ask it this way. If one starting out in IT has a Linux+ certification ( or red hat or any in that vein) and a CCNA, is your marketability any different than a person with A CCNA and lets say for example Windows 7 and Windows server Active Directory exams( I am not sure what the proper certification title is). or are they just different niches. It does look like the Microsoft Certs are considered higher level than say a Linux+ if I understand it correctly. I may have time for neither before I find work, but I want to make productive use of my time as I look for work. I feel I must go ahead and get the CCNA as soon as I can though .. For now I can study all day and apply for jobs at the same time until the savings run dry.
    Thanks,
    Brad
     
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    I think if I understand it correctly, the Linux+ is now 2 exams. I could be wrong though. it looks like it matches the LPIC1 now that Comptia has partnered with LPI.
     
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  18. sheepluv

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    Aahh those were the days :) Never did get a HD for mine :(

    Depends on what jobs are around, probably more m$ jobs about. I got a mix of servers here (because I could setup whatever I wanted to). Ideally do both if you can, and concentrate on one if you need it at work or something

    Yeh LPIC 1 is 2 exams. I was looking at the newer content in the Linux+ book on amazon, thinking of maybe buying the newer edition if it was more upto date with exam objectives, and I noticed that the 2010 Linux+ book is exactly the same contents as the LPIC 2009 book (Sybex books)!

    look ..

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/LPIC-1-Exam...=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1311236261&sr=1-1

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/CompTIA-Lin...=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1311236282&sr=1-1
     
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    I bought the newer Sybex book that you linked to(The comptia one, 2010 Publishing date). I haven't had a chance to read through it it yet, but it seems to be the same quality as most Sybex books. What little I have read isn't too dry and it does seem to be as current as you can for what is mostly a CLI that doesn't change much. It does cover both the LX0-101 and LX0-102 objectives fully though.

    I am still trying to prepare for the ICND2, so I have put any other certs on the back burner for now. I think I will go Linux for the sole reason that it interests me more than Windows. The higher learning curve is more of a challenge than pointing and clicking everything... eventually with a GUI like Windows you can get to a solution by just feeling your way through. Linux based OSes take a little more thinking to accomplish things.

    BTW that hard drive on my Amiga... I bought it used for $100 when I moved away from home after college... I thought I was the s&*t having a hard drive. now it's not even a big deal. makes you appreciate the advances more. :-)
     
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  20. sheepluv

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    Yeh dont touch it until CCNA is sorted. Lots of practice on the CLI should get it in your head, I like working with Linux CLI, man pages etc. all makes sense. A lot of the deeper windows commands seem so badly documented in comparison.
    Amiga really blew my mind (and the music, wow), was awesome for the time used to go down the local Dixons and have a look then finally got my mum to get me one (I was lucky, wasnt cheap when you were in school). First game was Shadow of the beast :) All in 512k (or 1mb if you had an upgrade) Never seemed the same since, must be my age. Last PC game I ever got into was Unreal tournament (1999 edition).. anyway im going off topic ;) Check my sig mate
     
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