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IT Management masters

Discussion in 'Employment & Jobs' started by stevefr, Jun 13, 2009.

  1. stevefr

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    Hello CertForums,
    I am looking for some advice from you knowledgable people. My name is Steve, I am 25 years old and have a degree in computing. I have been working for about 2 years in desktop support and am now thinking about going back to university to pursue a masters in IT for management. Is it worthwhile for me to do this...as I want to go into management. Steve.
     
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  2. UKDarkstar
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    Depends what sort of "management" you want really and what the course is going to offer you. Most managerial positions will probably want you to have much more work experience. Do you want to stay in support ? If so look at ITIL V3 which may be more useful or HDI.
     
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  3. wagnerk
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    Is it worthwhile to get your Masters? Me personally I would say yes. Will it get you into management? There's no guarantee, experience is the key.

    I'm an IT manager and I don't have my MSc/MA/MBA, in fact most of the IT managers that I know don't have their Masters. However I'm looking into it for higher level IT management positions.

    To be honest, I would recommend building your way up. You've stated that you've worked in Desktop Support for two years now. Why not start moving up to Server/Network support or look at team leading? Have you thought about doing the NVQ's in Team leading then Management? It's cheaper, and hopefully your company will pay for most/all of it.

    Like UKD already said look into ITIL, also look into Prince2/Project Management as these are skills that are looked for. HDI/SDI certs if you want to go into Helpdesk/Servicedesk management.

    -Ken
     
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  4. jk2447

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    I agree with Ken and DarkStar. I did the ILM Team Leader Certificate myself but that was after I was made a Team Leader so didn't help me get there.

    90% of our IT Managers have degree's so your already in a good position. What determines someone going higher in our place is leadership qualities of individuals. If you take charge of a problem and influence others on your team to get it resolved. Thats how I got to TL. TL is only a step up from a worker but in my opinion you get the best experience for management at this level, organising the team and still maintaining a hands on approach. A few times I could have gone higher but I like getting my hands dirty and want an even more nerdy techie role before I consider moving into management.

    ITIL offers good routes into management, a few of my mates did the ITIL Change Practitioners qualifications and have good management roles now. Check out this website for the roles available down the ITIL route. Very popular with the big hitters, IBM, Unisys, Barclays etc etc http://wiki.en.it-processmaps.com/index.php/Roles_within_ITIL_V3

    Sorry to finish off an MSc certainly won't do you any harm but to be honest, I've met board members (clients) who only hold BSc's and they've been on silly money with great job satisfaction so what I'm trying to say is, do it if YOU want to do it, but don't expect it to get you any further as your BSc is all you need IMHO.

    Cheers

    Jim
     
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  5. Arroryn
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    Arroryn we're all dooooooomed

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    Time to throw in a horrible curve ball :)

    I'm a First Line team leader (we do second line really, it's just job titles).

    When I got this job, I had basic IT experience (looked over the shoulder of the tech at my old place), and the CompTIA A+ with the fact that I was studying the N+ on my CV. I don't have a degree, but I did study up to A-Level.

    I applied for a junior helpdesk role, but my customer service attitude (which is important on a helpdesk) as well as other elements meant they interviewed me for the available Helpdesk Team Leader role.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is that, as has already been said, whilst a Masters would clearly be a nice addition to your CV, do it only if you want to do it. It isn't a necessary 'evil' for you to get where you want to go, should you just apply yourself in the right way.

    Two and a half years in, I'm still enjoying it like heck, though it has been (and still is) a nice steep learning curve as we move with the times. But that's IT, isn't it :biggrin
     
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  6. Jiser

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    I would do it just for the personal satisfaction of achieving a masters. Though good to look over pro's and con's. I wouldn't ever do full time again.
     
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  7. stevefr

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    Cheers for all the replies so far.
    Im thinking of going for a part-time / distance learning masters.
     
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  8. stevefr

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    Just to follow on from the thread,

    what it / project management certifications are out there apart from the obvious below?

    Prince2
    Itil
    Project+ (but I have been told its worthless)


    Cheers steve!
     
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  9. UKDarkstar
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    MSP (Managing Successful Programmes) provides a framework for bringing together related projects, co-ordinating them within a programme of business change in support of specific business strategies.

    M_o_R® (Management of Risk) sets out a framework for taking informed decisions about risk at a project, programme and strategic level to ensure that key risks are identified, assessed and that action is taken to address them.

    At the heart of APM (Association of Project Management) is the APM Body of Knowledge; fifty-two knowledge areas required to manage any successful project. APM promote the use of the APM Body of Knowledge through qualifications and accredited training.

    There's also Sigma Six : http://www.projectsmart.co.uk/project-management-six-sigma-project-management.html

    Finally (!) there's also certification for MS Project 2007 - I'm looking at doing the 70-632 exam on Managing Projects with Office Project 2007

    HTH :biggrin
     
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