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Is it True

Discussion in 'MCDST' started by Abs, Oct 20, 2007.

  1. Abs

    Abs Bit Poster

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    Hi guys!!

    I just finished me A+ and ask my local college when the N+ is gonna run, they adviced me to skip the N+ and go for the mcdst because that cert will defenetly improve my chances to get my first job in IT. My goal is to work with networks one day, but at this point I just wanna get in the IT world and get some sort of experience. They said the N+ is mostly theory course wich wont help you get a job, and most entry level jobs out there are first liner. The course is gonna run on 5 weeks, two evenings a week, Is'n that a bit quick or is that a normal time to finish the course?? The strange thing is that they run the A+ 10 weeks and are saying the mcdst should take half the time to finish, once you have the A+. And thirdly guys whats the best books for mcdst today? Sorry for all the questions guys but the college guy has said many unaccurate things to me before so I wanted to check other peoples view on this.

    Thanks in advance for all the help!!
     
  2. wizard

    wizard Petabyte Poster

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    I wouldn't necessarily skip the N+. You can go the self study route on N+. Are they just fobbing you off because they don't plan on running an N+ course?
     
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  3. greenbrucelee
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    I don't know about courses as I self study its cheaper and you can do it at your own pace.

    I would say do both the N+ and MCDST as the N+ will give you solid understanding of networking which you do need to know in the real world.
     
    Certifications: A+, N+, MCDST, Security+, 70-270
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  4. Abs

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    wizard

    They are running both courses at the same time, so I couldnt do both. But they are saying it's not even something to consider here, and that N+ is pretty pointless. And that mcdst is what I should go with because it will improve my chances of employment so much.
     
  5. wizard

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    N+ isn't pointless. I would take the advice of the people in here into consideration not just what your tutors think.
     
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  6. Abs

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    I know he's wrong when he says its pointless, but that he have a point aboutthe jobs out there for entre level, and that mcdst is much better chance to get a job in IT, or it has more demands for entry level people?
     
  7. wizard

    wizard Petabyte Poster

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    Ok take a look at this from the FAQ from the MCDST certification page:

    Especially the bit in bold, do you have 6-12 months experience?
     
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  8. greenbrucelee
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    Although the A+ and N+ do not count towards any part of the MCDST it is prefereable that you have them.
     
    Certifications: A+, N+, MCDST, Security+, 70-270
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  9. Abs

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    Thanx guys!

    I understand what you are saying, especielly the experience part. Im gonna go with the N+ and focus on an entry level. Thanks!!
     
  10. Spilly

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    I did the A+, N+, MCDST route and found the N+ Knowledge most useful and even useful last week when training towards my MCSA.

    There a some qusetions it will directly help you with while doing MCDST.
    Having been there and got the certs! dont skip the N+

    If your looking to just get a job urgently then do MCDST first if you must.
    It will give you MCP & MCDST titles to make your CV look good!

    If you are going down the MCSA route remember A+ & N+ count as an elective.
     
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  11. BosonMichael
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    Even CompTIA recommends 9 months of experience for the Network+.

    The Network+ certification won't get you a job... but it can certainly help you to get a job.
     
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  12. Theprof

    Theprof Petabyte Poster Forum Leader

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    I also agree with what's been said. I really don't believe that Network+ is pointless. In fact I think it's a great way to start learning the basics of networking. Unlike MCDST, Network+ is vender neutral, you can apply the knowledge you learnt in N+ to any situation related to networking. Also neither cert guarantees you a job.
     
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  13. malik06

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    I started my first job in IT 6 weeks ago. I was the candidate favoured by the senior IT guy at the company after the interviewing process, but the CFO was a bit antsy about taking on someone with no hands-on experience. During my interview, the IT chief was very interested in when I was sitting the exam. (I had done a really pants course and was beefing up my understanding with a lot of self-study before taking the exam.) When I passed N+, the CFO finally gave the OK, and here I am!

    N+ can help you to get your first job. A lot of it is theory, yes, but N+ gives you a broad understanding of a networked environment. Employers think that's a good thing.
     
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  14. ManicMonkey

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    Its all about understanding :0 to build a good house you need solid foundations, its no good trying to build walls before having somewhere to build them on, or a roof with no walls put up.

    Same thing applies in IT, more to a certain degree since you could in theory go straight in and learn the higher level without doing the foundations. However its not a good idea, i personally would rather have a less 'qualificationed' employe but a more solid knowledged one. (If you get my meaning O.o).

    Getting the N+ as, even if its not directly needed, shows a good foundation of understanding in IT and will help in the 'bigger' picture of the company.

    Just my 2 pence
     
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  15. Mitzs
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    Mitzs Ducktape Goddess

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    I agree with manic and others. If you don't do the basics and lay the foundation first (which N+ is) you will end up doing alot of back tracking because other certs that are more advanced are going to assume that you already have this knowledge. You will only make things harder for yourself if you do not understand the basic of networking. You have to understand how and why DNS works before you can troubleshoot it. Get David Groth N+ book since you have already done A+ you know how to study and this is something you really can do on your own with some help from an online commuinty like CF. No reason to pay out good money to others. Put it toward a lab for yourself which you will use for years down the road to help yourself learn.
     
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  16. GW

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    One other thing that is good about getting the Network+, later on when you go for your MCSA certification you can use the A+ and Network+ as your elective.

    GW
     
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