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Is it just me or do you agree???

Discussion in 'The Lounge - Off Topic' started by mrlogic0, Oct 7, 2007.

  1. mrlogic0

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    I reckon we in the UK (and the rest of the world) are being shafted left, right and centre. We have to pay full price for things whilst the US (& Canada) guys get discounts. Examples:

    1. CWNP are giving away a wireless router with their study bundles...US only

    2. CompTIA have stopped companies selling us discount exam vouchers - so whilst we pay full price, the US and canadians can get 20-25% off.

    :x

    Anyone agree?

    I'm studying for the Network+ and A+ exams and it's gonna cost a packet :(

    Does anyone else think that we should start a petition against CompTIA's stance and/or boycott them???
     
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  2. wagnerk
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    I agree, not only that but CWNP are also offering the combined study pack and voucher at a discounted price but for US & Canada order's only :x

    Here in the UK (and mainland Europe), it's seems like companies can charge what they like and us that live in the UK just roll over and accept it. It doesn't help that the Government gets a big slice of the profits from these companies (thru all the different types of tax, eg petrol gets taxed twice, once on the crude stuff and again after it gets refined) so they're not going to step in and do anything about it.

    It's seems that if you live in a developing country, the US or in Canada you get all the benefits :(

    Or is it that I'm disillusioned with alot of the companies that provide IT training and certifications at this moment in time?

    -ken
     
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  3. grim

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    its not just exam vouchers, we in rip off britain get shafted for every thing and anything because the government are a bunch of greddy f00kers that likes spending our over priced products on housing immigrants and fighting wars that dont concern us.

    grim
     
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  4. greenbrucelee
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    Yep totally agree, we pay tax on petrol then road tax all of which is a rip off, we have to pay full price for exams and you can't get a house because the house prices are so high.

    A 3 bedroom house in my area 6 years ago was £60000 now its 130000 and wages havent moved how can we be expected to be able afford that.
     
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  5. derkit

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    I blame it all on the minimum wage - before that businesses didn't have to worry about overheads like a minimum wage, prices wouldn't have been higher to still have a profit, inflation would have been less, and petrol cheaper.
    On top of that less people would mean more houses and cheaper housing - either stop immigration (or limit it) or stop people having children.
    Cutting benefits to a minimum and give everyone a food parcel which will be enough for them to live on until the next one (weekly/monthly) - less money to spend on cr*p. In turn, that'll bring less strain on the government and more money in the budget.... better health care, better schools, roads without pot holes, properly funded police force/fire service/armed forces.

    So stop immigration, stop producing jobs because people are too lazy to do an extra hour worth of paperwork and cut benefits for those lazy feckers that can't be bothered to work...

    .....


    .... well, I'm not thinking straight after a nice hot roast dinner, couple of glasses of wine, sat on my big leather sofa, with my Audi TT out the front, my 4 bed house in a private estate mortgage-free and the wife and 2 kids counting the gold coins in the back room.......

    While I take the phish... I do wonder sometimes whether some of the above actually has had a negative effect on this country - and yes, we are screwed! :(
     
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  6. greenbrucelee
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    I am not sure wether the minimum wage has anything to do with it.

    But yes something needs to be done about people who won't work.

    And immigration needs stopping now.

    As for the unemployed there are some that will work but won't unless it's a job they really want (I have always been of the opinion you work any job as long as it pays the bills) and there are some people who just wont work.

    I have a friend who stopped working just because he didn't like his job, that was 6 years ago, during this time he has developed a mental disorder were he has panick attacks n stuff because in my opinion he never did anything for a long time including going outside.

    Now he has claimed the dole in the past but has stopped because he has a panick attack going to collect the money, so he spunges of his parent.

    People like him he should get mental help from the dss but he should have help in finding a job too, when he is mentally fit enough.
     
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    Hence I said - I take the phish. I have no idea what has caused the problems we are experiencing now, and if I did, I would have thought some politican would have thought about it long before I did.
     
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  8. greenbrucelee
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    Politicians might have thought about it, but they won't do anything about it because they'll probably loose money.
     
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  9. Bambino1506

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    I can't afford to get a mortgage, even on a 2 bedroom terrace house for the mrs my baby daughter and myself, they are around 10x my salary.


    I work my arse off 40 hours a week and study my arse off in any free time I get, I'm always early for work, always willing and never sick and have been like this for the past 5 years....I don't drink, I don't smoke, I never spend any money on myself for clothes, games etc etc. My mrs is very ill and can't work, been that way since the baby, NHS don't want to know, keep fobbing us off with "we'll do more tests".

    I get annoyed....maybe one day it will improve, I hope so for my little girl.
     
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    You can keep you audi tt, can I have you roast dinner and large sofa :D
     
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  11. wagnerk
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    I do not believe that stopping immigration is a wise move, however the UK should restict immigration to only those that can contribute to our society (and no, I'm not British - I am from the mainland continent, Germany, in case someone is going to think I'm getting on my high horse), like Australia. I'm tired of reading in the papers, about people who come over to the UK get council housing, health care and benefit money, don't pay anything in and then complain that the house that they've been given isn't as big as the house they left behind.

    The second thing that GBL pointed out was about people who don't work just because they don't want to. There are hundreds and thousands of jobs out there and yet the Government pays out millions of £££'s just because people won't work. I've had s**t jobs that I've hated and didn't want to do, but I did them because I needed: 1. money and 2. self respect, to hand out money to people just because they don't like the job is wrong, imo. Another thing that really bugs me is the fact that people are getting pregnant just to get 1. council housing 2. a house/a bigger house & 3. another reason why not to work. The Government should only pay for children at the time of the original claim, if they want another child, then the responsibility is down to the parents to provide. If there is only a single parent, then child care should be provided for them. I do not see the reason why us that work and have kids should be the only ones that have to leave our kids up to 8 hours a day in order to provide for our family. Heck, I'd clean sh*t off the pavement if I lost my job in order to provide for my family.

    Of course medical/mental health and unforseen circumstances is a different thing all together, and I believe that is why the benefit system was set up in the first place and not to bring up a generating of dossers :x

    That's my opinion anyway, just re-reading what I wrote, d*mn it looks like I've got a chip on my shoulder :biggrin

    -ken

    Disclaimer: The infomation in this post reflects my opinion only and does not reflect everyone's opinion in this forum
     
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  12. Bambino1506

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    you're right though Ken, the system rewards dossers more than hard working folk.

    If I was to lose my job and go on benefits, the goverment would give me and my family our own house and it would be ours. I would like to see more help for struggling young familys who are actually doing their best to work and make ends meet.
     
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  13. wagnerk
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    I would like to see that too, with inflation and house prices rising, new (not just young) families are struggling.

    -Ken
     
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  14. mattwest

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    I have to agree.

    Britain is a small island with limted resources and space.... lets get the dosser's off their sofa's and stop them claiming benefit - lets get them working. How about a law that says if you dont accept work after 6 months your benefits get stopped. I wanna see a stop to teenage mums who's only skill is getting pregnant geting free houses for it... i want them taught some responsibilty... i wanna see the homeless off the street and OAP's being able to afford to heat their homes before these bums get benefit, these single mums get benefit for their 8th kid or we start housing and population of the war torn world....

    How about we get our own social problems sorted out before we start helping others?

    Dont get me wrong i'm proud to be British / English and wnat to help the world where possible, but why cant we help our OAP's who fought in the war or get our own bums of the street before we we start printing every official document in 100 different languages.

    Sorry for the rant but it just gets on my nerves.... i work hard, have two jobs, earn good money now and i still see no way of getting on the housing market in the next 3 to 5 years.... why should others have it so easy for doing nothing? Or by moving here? Or by having babies? Arghhhhhhhhhh.......... :rolleyes:
     
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    are you sure you don't live in the states?
     
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  16. wagnerk
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    Used to, lived in NYC for just under 8 years and SF for 6 months.

    -ken
     
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  17. Modey

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    Hey mate, you might have something there. I bet it would pay better than our current IT Jobs. :)

    Oh and I totally agree with your post (but no I'm not going to QFT it *cringe* :) ). I don't think there is anything wrong at all with having a very strict criteria for allowing people to work here. I think the Aussies have got it dead right when it comes to their immigration policy. Even with things like, if you invest in government bonds over there, it increases your chances of getting in. That kind of thing shows a commitment to putting something into the economy of the place you intent to live, and not just being a burden on it.
     
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  18. Cockles

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    Just to really get the blood boiling, did anyone see that news report containng the Polish newspaper that was actually giving immigrants here a step-by-step guide of how to cash in on the benefits system and land a place to live? The article was illustrated by a couple with a pram underneath a rain of banknotes. It made me feel sick when I heard about that, they were saying which forms to fill in, which agencies to apply forand the answers to put on the forms, and this is all without doing a single day's work.

    I used to love Britain, I despair now.
     
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  19. Modey

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    Surely getting our carbon footprint sorted* is a more important issue than actually sorting out the country? It seems that's the fashionable issue for all politicians to bang on about now.


    *even though we should really be worrying about the USA, China, India etc...
     
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  20. Cockles

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    Hah, this forum saw a rather - shall we say - extended barney about all the Green guff a short while ago

    http://www.certforums.co.uk/forums/thread18047.html
     
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