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I'm confused!!

Discussion in 'General Microsoft Certifications' started by ryanthelion84, May 6, 2008.

  1. ryanthelion84

    ryanthelion84 Nibble Poster

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    With two weeks to go till my exam I've been asking around friends and colleagues for any resources they might have to give me an alternate viewpoint on certain areas of 70-290, I've had useful white papers technet links and all sorts handed over too me, and what brings me to ask the following question....some TKing Q&A's.

    I have searched CF for clarification, but there are so many posts relating to TK and BD's that unfortunately I am more confused than when i started as the posts are all very wooly and beat around the bush too much,

    So I feel I have to ask:

    Is 'Braindump' a term to describe a list of Q&A's? - In which case the questions in the back of my MS Press books could be considered such - Or do they actually have to be ACTUAL exam questions stolen from an exam?

    Therefore, is TK a braindump? Are they stolen from the exam, or are they legitimately written questions?

    I have had a scroll through and it appears the questions actually have testking as the domain in some of the screenshots, could they be actual exam questions that have been doctored? or are they legitimately written?

    Bottom line: I DO NOT want to use these as practice questions if they are REAL!! - I want to pass this exam of my own merit!

    HELP!!!
     
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  2. greenbrucelee
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    Braindumps are the real questions you will get on the exam, they are usually in pdf format and list all possible questions you will get and the answer.

    TK is the biggest braindump place around. They claim they are legit but they are not.

    Always use this to find out wether the test exams you have are BDs or are legit http://www.certguard.com/search.asp
     
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  3. ryanthelion84

    ryanthelion84 Nibble Poster

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    Thanks man!

    That's the kind of info I was looking for!

    So their questions despite looking legitimate are actually questions from the exam?! Wasters!

    Thanks for the web address, I'll check everything through that from now on!

    Might go out and buy a transcender practice exam!

    Cheers!
     
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  4. greenbrucelee
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    Your best getting high quality exams that actually test your knowledge instead of giving you the answers. Certguard will actually tell you if a site/exam is legit and it will alsi tell you if a site/exam is being investigated for underhand practices like taking peoples money and not supplying the goods.
     
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  5. BosonMichael
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    dingdingding! Winner!

    High-quality stuff isn't as cheap as braindumps... know why? Cause we have to create the questions from scratch. They merely have to steal their content.

    Go with a high-quality provider. You won't regret it. :)
     
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  6. Fergal1982

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    To be fair to TK, at last contact MS confirmed that they had satisfied the criteria arising from the settlement between MS and TK.

    That means that (as far as MS is concerned) the current materials from TK are legit. Are they any good? Probably not very, but MS considers them legit.

    Mind, thats only for the MS certifications though.
     
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  7. greenbrucelee
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    I think MS need to look again at this.

    The MCSE guy who got sacked my place for being incompetent showed me his TK stuff a few days before he got sacked one of the sheets he showed me were A+ 220-601 questions. Atleast half of what I saw on the sheet were exact questions that I had when I took my 601.

    Places like these may seem to be reputable sometimes but they'll always cheat as they know unsrupulace people will use them.
     
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  8. Fergal1982

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    Exactly my point - the settlement only involved MS material. Since the A+ questions are not MS material, its not counted. All they are interested is that TK are not ripping off their exam questions, which they werent.
     
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  9. Suttar

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    I have a colleague who had CCNA Testking materials and they were most definitely Braindumps, and I told him to chuck them. Don't think he did though. :ohmy
     
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  10. greenbrucelee
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    If I was creating BDs and a company I was ripping off asked me to show them my exam questions I doubt it would take very long for me to create a legit looking practice exam. Thats what TK may have done with MS.

    TK will always be a BD once assosiated with BD status I doubt anyone could/would turn it around.
     
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  11. Fergal1982

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    Thats irrelevant. What is relevant is that MS considers their MS exam material to be legit. Since its MS's material, their opinion on the matter is the most important.

    Dont think MS is naive enough to not monitor the materials undercover. They will resume legal action if TK revert to using illegal materials.

    I'm not saying that they are good, or the best resource. Nor am I stating the OP should use them. I am however, providing the official line from MS on the company, in an attempt to ensure balance. Whether you, BM, or anyone else likes TK is irrelevant to my point. All that is relevant to my point is that MS considers them legit, and using them for MS exams wont result in you being decertified at the current time.
     
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  12. Suttar

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    I agree, But I think GB was saying once they get tarred with the braindump brush, people will be wary to use them.
     
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  13. Fergal1982

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    Absolutley, and I agree personally.

    But we are here to advise, and we need to strive to ensure a balanced approach to that advice. Hence my stance on other matters such as TP's. I'm trying to provide a balance to the forum.
     
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    Rat Bastards, the lot of them. If I ever hit the lottery, I am going to hire me some hackers. A little trojan here, a dos attack there, A pack of rabid dobermens set loose in their place of bussiness. what ever it is that hackers do.8) Anything to make their life as miserable as they have made mine though the years. :dry
     
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    good move 8)
     
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    To be fair to everyone else, TK owns a lot of other companies that aren't complying with the ruling. :dry
     
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  17. Fergal1982

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    No argument there. But I was specifically talking about TK, in relation to MS material. Im not saying the other exams are BD free, nor that if they own other companies, they are BD free. Once again, what I am saying, is that TK's MS exam material has satisfied MS' settlement at last contact.

    Just because the forum opinion in general hates TK, doesnt mean we cant be grown up, and balanced, enough to provide the truth, even if it doesnt help our case.
     
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  18. BosonMichael
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    You're not listening. The ruling states that TK... and all the companies owned by TK... must comply with the ruling. They are not.

    Reread the ruling if you don't believe me. :)
     
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  19. Sparky
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    Even if TK are legit (ignoring the other companies they own) then that doesn’t change anything for me. The damage has been done already as there is enough BD material on the web produced by them and it won’t be going away anytime soon.

    I just hope that Microsoft takes a tougher stance on the Server 2008 exams to try and restore some of the integrity in Microsoft certification. 8)
     
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  20. Fergal1982

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    perhaps, I dont know the settlement in detail, but MS seem content, so what can you say?
     
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