I NEED URGENT HELP PEOPLE!!!

Discussion in 'Design' started by kobem, Jun 11, 2007.

  1. kobem

    kobem Megabyte Poster

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    OH man so thanks to you for your funny draw:D

    and i send you an image

    let's combine this with my image !

    here it s :

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    in the schema i sent no floor specified , let's combine it
    with your floorly picture and add ip addresses also no media converters

    please !
     
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  2. Sparky
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    Seems to be media convertors flying about all over the place! Also you may want to consider a DMZ for your Web Server. 8)


    Edit: Why not throw in a DC to controller so you can lock down those file servers, what about an Exchange server? Everyones gotta have email!
     
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  3. BosonMichael
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    You do know that if that picture was created by anyone else, then you're in violation of copyright law, right?

    Just sayin... cause if you don't know how to design a network by floor, you probably don't know how to lay out a Visio network diagram with fiber and... uh... media converters. :p
     
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  4. r.h.lee

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    Kobem,

    What are your business requirements?
     
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  5. kobem

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    HEY I MADE A ONE OF ME BUT ALSO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.


    HERE IS THE PIC

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    my diagram looks so simple made and maybe so but
    questions


    1- in this schema it seems 3 floors and i need one more
    and WHAT SHOULD I PUT IN IT ? (ALSO NOT DECIDED IN THE SCHEMA WHICH FLOORS THEY ARE)

    2-THERE IS ONLY ONE ROUTER THEN HAVE DIFFERENT
    PARTS OF AREAS (FLOOR 1 ,2,3 ..)

    BECAUSE OF THIS IF I DON'T USE SAME NETWORK IP RANGE FOR ALL I WOULD USE VLANS FOR DEFAULT GATEWAY

    (I MEAN

    LOOK AT THE PICTURE AND LET'S BEGIN FROM TOP

    192.168.1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6

    then when i come to the floor in the middle
    if i don't choose from that range for ex. if i choose
    172.16 ip range ROUTER HAS TO BE VLANS BECAUSE
    OF OBLIGATION FOR HAVING DIFFERENT DEFAULT GATEWAYS.
    )


    3-which ip addresses should i give for file servers ?


    4-and for web server?









     
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  6. kobem

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    HEY HERE IS THE LATEST SCHEMA AND ASK SAME QUESTIONS
    IN MY PREVIOUS POST ALSO.

    [​IMG]
     
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  7. supag33k

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    Note that upper case in forums or email denotes YELLING...

    I trust that is not your intention?
     
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  8. kobem

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    HERE IS THE LATEST

    [​IMG]


    BUT CAN I CONNECT ALL SERVERS DIRECTLY EACH OTHER?

    this schema took my 12 hours approximately

    i want two things from you

    1-please give ip addresses and send me the picture

    2-please put the floor names (i couldn't decide which one to which)

    for ex. at the top msut be 3th floor
     
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  9. hbroomhall

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    The graphic in question came from here.

    Harry.
     
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  10. kobem

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    PLEASEEEE HELP ME MAN!

    HERE IS THE LATEST

    [​IMG]


    PLEASE WRITE ME THE IP ADDRESSES

    AND floor numbers then it will finish

    please

    :cry:
     
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  11. hbroomhall

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    Why 3 floors? They could be anything - such as sales, accounts, support, order processing.

    Why? You don't need vlans in such a situation.

    If I understand what you are saying you don't need a vlan just because you have more than one network in a building.

    Please don't use so many effects in your posts - it makes it very hard to respond to.

    Harry.
     
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  12. Tinus1959

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    Could you stop shouting? And all those colors do not enhance readebility.
     
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  13. hbroomhall

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    First - there isn't enough detail in the graphic to tell what the various boxes are.
    Second - there doesn't seem to be enough machines to warrant multiple networks, unless there are other requirements not mentioned.

    So why not just pick one of the private ranges and allocate some IPs?

    Harry.
     
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  14. kobem

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    you said there is no need for vlans here

    but

    think for the third floor i give 192.168.1.2 1.3 ...

    then

    for the second floor i give 172.16.1.2 1.3 ...


    so there is only one router and how can i understand
    whether the default gateway is 192.168.1.1 or 172.16.1.1 if i have only one ethernet interface for the router to inside?
     
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  15. hbroomhall

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    But routers have two or more interfaces. Each of those interfaces have an IP address that is the gateway for the network connected to it.

    If you mean that you only have one router available, and that is used for the Internet connection, and is the simple domestic type usualy used in such situations, then you can't have multiple networks in the building. Such routers just can't do it.

    Harry.
     
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  16. kobem

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    yes it has two interfaces here one comes from two switches
    and the other to server

    im trying to do this


    for the third floor i chose 192.168.1.2 .. on the router , gateway must be 192.168.1.1 or something like this

    for the second floor 172.16.1.2 ... on the router , gateway
    must be 172.16.1.1 or something like this

    but there is only one ethernet interface so which is the gateway
    address ?172.16.1.1 or 192.168.1.1

    so we need vlans for this






     
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  17. hbroomhall

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    How to make things difficult for yourself!

    The only way I can think of to make this work is to arrange for the interface to be multi-homed, and arrange the routing table to be aware of this.

    However - the down side would be that the two networks would not be able to talk to each other.
    Edit: Actualy, thinking about this, with careful arangement of the routing table they might. I'd still not attempt it though.

    Much better to use another router if you insist on such a crazy IP allocation scheme.

    Both, if you make it multi-homed. But it isn't a solution I'd recomend to anybody.

    Nope.

    AFAIK Vlans need two ends, where are these going to be situated?

    Harry.
     
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  18. kobem

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    Man i feel like stupid :blink

    1-if i do with one router as in the schema , do i need VLANS?

    2-if i add second router how can this schema be?

    please receive mine and send the schema it has to be.
     
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  19. Tinus1959

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    If you use vlans, you could do with the "router on a stick" concept.
    Try this link: krypton.fhda.edu/~deaverph/cnet54x/router%20on%20a%20stick%20HOWTO.doc
    You create the vlans for the two (or even more if you need to) floors and use a common trunk port.
     
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  20. kobem

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    i forgave the vlan but how can i get rid of the problem of default gateways with three floors ?
     
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