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Hacking networks with a Pringles tube

Discussion in 'Networks' started by UCHEEKYMONKEY, Apr 7, 2007.

  1. UCHEEKYMONKEY
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  2. UCHEEKYMONKEY
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    But wait... on the news yesterday on ITV they announced that hackers managed to hack into home wireless networks with their Bluetooth Mobile phones.


    Did anyone else see the story on the news??8)
     
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  3. Phoenix
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    You do know that that article is 5 years old right?
    it also has nothing to do with hacking, and wireless security has come leaps and bounds in the last five years
     
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    Ooops:oops:

    But what about the bluetooth Hackers that was on the new yesterday. Did you see the story??
     
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    Er - yes. The leaps and bounds represents the reduction in time required to break into a WiFi connection. :p

    And yes - the pringle tube is old hat - but still a good hat.

    Harry (in contrary mode)
     
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    Harry
    I was ofcourse refering to a few factors that have changed in wireless deployments in the last five years

    firstly many are secure by default (WPA usually these days)
    WPA2 with enterprise authentication is a much safer alternative to standard WEP or even WPA
    dual factor authentication and vpn access is also commonly deployed in corporates

    this is not quite the same as those unsecure out of the box devices with the option of turning WEP on if you really wanted to that were all the rage 5 years ago :)
     
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  7. UCHEEKYMONKEY
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    Edit:- removed that remark was a bit too Cheeky!
     
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  8. Phoenix
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    nothing is 100% secure mate, it just doesnt exist
    but im glad you can use google! :)
     
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  9. UCHEEKYMONKEY
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    I take it by that answer that you can still see my original answer or saw it before I edited it????

    My Mates on wirless and until he saw the news, was bragging about it to me all the time and that when playing LAN games I should use Wireless.


    Hmmm I'm not sure if Wirless LAN will be better than Wired LAN??

    We only use CAt5e 100MBps with 100MBps hub. The connection rate is fast enough for Red faction and Call of duty. But now he's seen the news he wants to get rid of wirless (he's gone Paranoid) and go back to Wired internet:rolleyes:
     
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    I know. :biggrin I was being a bit contrary, which tends to happen after a bottle of wine.... :biggrin

    This is indeed all true - things *are* much improved. And the use of VPN over an encrypted channel is ideal here - but as you say, this is mostly corporates who have done this.

    Harry.
     
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    The main problems with wireless are two-fold.
    1) You rarely, if ever, get the throughput advertised. Typicaly the best you can hope for is half the advertised rate. And if the distance/attenuation gets at all large this will drop rapidly.
    2) Because of the way WiFi works the 'round-trip-time' is much worse for wireless when compared to wires. Gamers are usualy obsessed with this, known to them as 'ping time', so I'm surprised your mate didn't spot this when he went wireless!

    Harry.
     
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  12. dmarsh

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    Normal jorno stuff, Its not a Yagi antenna, although it is directional.
     
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  13. Dhughes

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    Slighty different but ive tested my local town of Cheltenham and the City of Gloucester both this year (while waiting for the wife to finish either at work or getting her hair done so out of interest/boredom) Walked around both town centers with my pda with the wifi on, the amount of networks you can get on with no security at all amazed me, JD weatherspoons i can remember but many others aswell, JD weatherspoon very crafftily renamed their SSID JDWS(then a number) oooo couldnt work out which business that ones coming from lol
     
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