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Discussion in 'The Lounge - Off Topic' started by Suttar, Apr 17, 2008.

  1. Suttar

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    Is it Just me or does everyone else feel like the amount of arguments on the board have gone through the roof lately. I know I have waded in a couple of times when folks have annoyed me with their posts so I include I small level of guilt.

    But it seems like several posts by new users have descended into heated arguements. Makes me wonder if there are some folks who have joined up to purposely bait people.

    Just wondered what the general opinion is?
     
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  2. Fergal1982

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    Screw you! Screw you and the horse you rode in on!!!!!!!!!!! Damn you Sutty, you cant even program, so what do you count for eh??? Nothing! thats what, nothing! You worthless piece of....

    ah to hell with that, Im bored already. :biggrin

    There have been a couple of volatile threads lately, but to be honest its been escalating for months in my opinion.
     
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  3. IThurts

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    {Removed to save further agro..}
     
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  4. Suttar

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    I see your point. However most of the posts which are argumentative are made by newer users. You'll maybe notice I've only been on the forum for a few months and have a post count lower than yourself so I would also fall into the NEW member category, so your point does seem a little moot.
     
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  5. Phoenix
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    Actually there are plenty of members here who DO command more respect than the average new member, that's life, they have been here, they have put in the time, they have helped out a bunch of people, and earned the respect of the community

    Post count has absolutely nothing to do with it, some of our best members don't even make the top 10, and chatting a lot doesn't mean your spitting out a lot of substance

    There are plenty of people here who think there opinion is just as valid as anyone else's, that is indeed the case, it does not mean everyone else will treat that opinion as gospel, people don't seem to like that, but again, that's life!
     
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  6. TimoftheC

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    I agree.

    One thing I have noticed though is that there are some members (not saying new or old) that seem to demand an answer. I think people should remember that information is a commodity that members give out freely because they genuinely want to help others. If someone has taken the time to answer a request for information or help, then the answer should be respected as an attempt to help, even if the answer received is not always what you wanted to hear or not as helpful as you would like.

    There's an old saying here in Leicester, you get more out of donkey with a carrot than with a stick 8) (Then there's the other one - you can take a horse to water but a pencil has to be lead (no graphite posts please)).

    Anyway, hope that helps :biggrin
     
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  7. greenbrucelee
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    Yes but it does not make them superior in anyway as a couple seem to think they are, I came here to learn and hopefully help people out if I can. Whilst I feel some of established members here do respect what I have said I feel there are some who blatantly don't like it and there seems to be more of the latter than the first.

    Then why does there seem to be an issue with with me posting as I have set out in the other thread.

    Yes everyones opinion is valid and yes people don't have to listen to that opinion/advice but there isn't any need in someone being castigated for it or made to feel that their opinion isn't valid.
     
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  8. drum_dude

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    I think it's down the fact that this community is getting larger and at a lot more well known! As a result ALL sorts are joining up - some are interested in IT but others seem to look for something to spark of an argument, such as the abortion debate that has recently been brought up - by a new member - in a recent thread...f*ck knows where that thread is going at the moment!
     
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  9. AJ

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    I would just like to add on the staff front that we are not thought police, sometimes it can be "difficult" to look at some of these threads with objectivity. There have been plenty of times that I've typed my true thoughts on a subject and nearly clicked onto the submit button. Then re-read it and thought that it would be an inappropriate response for a member of staff. Also we are all volunteers looking after this fine place.

    As to people getting their backs up to posted comments, I agree with Phoenix. Some members here do command more respect then others. They know who they are and they certainly don't blow their own trumpet. Sometimes they get it wrong or sound big headed. that's forum life and without seeing the person it can be difficult to "get" the real meaning of the written word. Oh and BTW adding a smiley and expecting everyone to know that you are only joking can be a bit misleading, but we are all guilty of that I suppose.
     
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  10. juice142

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    That's the reason I'm so quiet these days. :rolleyes:
     
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  11. IThurts

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    I would just like to say a few things. I had removed my post above because i really didnt want to create any further agro. I had mentioned a couple of things but then thought about the purpose of this forum....to share advice and knowledge.

    I say everyone just ignores the bitchey comments and people just try to get along...i was guilty the other day of posting something that DA may have found offensive, turns out he didnt take it to heart afterall, saying that the point i guess was that it was unfair of me to pass judgement without acknowledgement of his attempt to help me...and i had apologised.

    THis forum is a great example of fair objective minded staff members...you DO NOT get that in ALOT of forums, where you see admin only sticking with members they have known for a long term, so kudos to the staff for that, and i hope it continues.
    Futher to this...everyone has their bad days when they just want to moan, dont pass judgement unless they are known for this.

    I started out in this forum liking alot of you guys, then some of you got a bit weird on me not just in my RAID thread but others also. I would like to apologise to BM for having a heated session with him and anyone else i may have offended. I hope we can start again and you dont look at my posts and think "oh no not him again"..lol.Just a good will gesture really.

    Ignore the trouble and keep this knowledgable forum in a pleasant state...:biggrin

    HERE HERE!!
     
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  12. Suttar

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    You are totally right, and kudos to you for admitting fault. We're all guilty of getting riled up when we read someones posts. I think forgive and forget
     
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  13. IThurts

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    Yes, everyone is failable (sp?), i think the idea though is to judge people on how they act afterwards as opposed to dwelling on a current/past situation.

    Have a gr8 weekend in any case.:thumbleft
     
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  14. tripwire45
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    As I mentioned in GBL's thread, we actually get along quite well compared to other forums I've been to. I've seen forums where the "flamers" basically ran the show and anyone who wasn't part of their "in" group, got pretty much ripped apart. I've been on forums that had really, really accomplished people, but their egos were are big as their careers.

    Yes, there are people here who have earned their stripes that that should be acknowledged (Phoenix, Mathmatix, and Harry are just a few I could mention), however I have never seen them put down another member because they haven't had as much experience or knowledge.

    As a member, I'd probably just avoid the few bad eggs in the carton. As staff, if someone crosses the line, I would have to take some sort of action but as AJ rightly put it, we aren't "thought police". We try to keep the atmosphere generally friendly and certainly free from "flamers" and other undesirables, but we are all adults, too and expected to manage our behavior as such (sorry for the American spelling). :wink:
     
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  15. UCHEEKYMONKEY
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    :hhhmmm I hadn't noticed any heated debates going on? Then again maybe I have been looking the wrong place??

    I think at the end of the day, people have good days and bad days and that's just life!!

    Maybe if you've had a bad day you shouldn't log onto CF and vent yor angry, but then again sometimes it's good to chat to the friendly community. I find when I have a rough day, reading some of the threads here on CF makes me smile and things don't seem so bad!:biggrin

    With Regards to Suttar opening question:-

    "Is it Just me or does everyone else feel like the amount of arguments on the board have gone through the roof lately. I know I have waded in a couple of times when folks have annoyed me with their posts so I include I small level of guilt.

    But it seems like several posts by new users have descended into heated arguements. Makes me wonder if there are some folks who have joined up to purposely bait people.

    Just wondered what the general opinion is?
    "

    I guess there are people out there who are keyboard warriors or maybe this is there first time on a Forum and they just don't understand how forum works? Maybe they believe CF is like MS Messenger with instant response to every thread or question posted??


    I feel sorry for the staff here, because it must be so difficult for them to step back from a hostile thread and approach it from a clear and concise view without a personal opinion. I guess you've got to see an argument from all sides before deciding on the correct course of action!!8):biggrin
     
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  16. AuRoR

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    I recently got in a heated discussion with someone and i have a low post count. I started a thread with good intentions, thinking it would be an interesting subject. It was taken the wrong way and I was slated for it. I just hope people don't think that I'm arrogant for it cos I generally get along with everyone and use this forum for educational info and find it the most useful forum i use.

    I have a low post count but I always have a read and actually know what some of the regulars are like just by reading their posts! I was very disappointed when I was put down by someone and doubted the quality of this place because of it but that is totally wrong. I've only come across a few bad / uncalled comments and people and most are brilliant. Some of the older users stuck up for me and it was nice of them.

    So unless I'm not welcome I'm gonna stay! I just think some (very few) need to realise that some new users might actually have more knowlegde / skill than them and may have only just actually come across this forum or just don't even like using them. Maybe thats why they have a low post count. I don't mean me if anyones wondering, I defo no expert in my chosen field.
    I think I have one problem tho, I get carried away with typing and it's so long that I think people can't be bothered to read!
     
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  17. UCHEEKYMONKEY
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    I can see your point there AuRoR and have read that post you refer to. Maybe the member should not of used those words intheir answer. However, one thing you have to remember with this forum and every forum on the network. Is sometimes the communication is lost or misunderstood. How can anyone understand what is going through someones mind when they post a thread. i know we have smilies for this but even these can be misused.

    Sometimes people do not understand what is being asked of them or have misread the question. Sometimes an answer can be given tongue in cheek but another person on the opposite side of the world can take offence. After all we all have different personalities.

    I wouldn't let this recent experience put you off from posting or even interacting.

    If you do get a problem or negative feedback then post a PM to the staff or get Trip to Flame them!:devilflam
     
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  18. Bluerinse
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    Well CF is an Internet forum afterall, you have to expect a few ups and downs as time marches on. It would be a dull place if everyone agreed all the time with everybody that posted. The trick to keeping decoram is to not personalise your posts. If you don't agree with something, debate the issue, not the posters intelect or personality.

    This is still one of the best IT certification forums on the planet and we should all strive to keep it that way. We can all do our bit by thinking hard before we hit the submit button. If your post has been written with emotional drama or anger, then the chances of a similar response being posted is very high. Sometimes it's wise to say nothing at all, until you have had a chance to calm down and think straight. We are all friends, here to help one another, we are not here to score macho, i am da man, your are a dork points. We are way beyond that. 8)
     
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  19. Mitzs
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    I belive he is talking about me.:biggrin I read his post in the oppsite direction of how he ment it. And for that I am very sorry AuRoR. Do not feel that you are not wanted on my account because that is not true. I am not perfect so I humbly ask your forgiveness for the misunderstanding and hope you will accept my offer of friendship. If you do not wish to, I will understand that too.
     
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  20. BosonMichael
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    Apology accepted... think nothing of it. :)
     
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