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exam 70-297 need some feedback on..

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  1. UCHEEKYMONKEY
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    Hello Everyone,

    need some feedback on...

    Training providers or lab exercises on creating AD accounts in Windows Exchange server 2003.

    Can anyone recommend any books, training providers or lab exercise?? 8) :biggrin
     
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  2. zebulebu

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    I'll teach ya.

    Take you ten minutes.

    Seriously - I can do it with some screenshots.
     
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    You could supply some b/w pictures and could colour them in with some crayons :p :biggrin

    Serious mate - I need 70-297 exam for work!

    so any advice would be appreciated. :biggrin
     
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  4. Sparky
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    70-297?

    What about doing the 70-270, 70-290, 70-291 and 70-293 first? :biggrin

    Seriously though, whats up at work? Have you been thrown into a server admin job? :biggrin
     
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  5. UCHEEKYMONKEY
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    What do I have to take all those exams first?

    Work is becoming like a factory job, job satisfaction has gone out of the window. I used to build computers now all I do is install them.

    I pick one off the shelf pre-built with software and hardware process the p/w for AD account for that person, install it, pick up the old one. Then it starts again!

    It's like being in a factory:(

    I find AD accounts interesting and want to learn more also there are a lot of problems with AD accounts at work but the network boys won't tell me what's going on!
     
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    If it’s just AD you want to learn then 70-290 and 70-294 should help you out. Can’t comment on the 70-297 as I haven’t reached that stage in the MCSE journey yet.

    Sounds like work is getting you down mate. Why not try and get more involved with the server admin side if you can?
     
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    You don't HAVE to... but I'd certainly recommend it.
     
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    What about the MCP exams??

    If you take one exam do you get a cert to say which MCP exam you have taken?

    I only ask as there is a course for MCP at my local college but they say you only get a college cert and for £400 that seems crap.
     
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    I wish I could but the attitude at work seems to be " I don't want to share my knowledge with you"

    In fact when i spoke to the systems administrator and ask why he doesn't document or share his findings with the rest of the team he states it would put him out of a job because he would not be specialised. It's a giant pain in the neck, when he's on holiday and the new updates for software he is working on don't work and bring the network to hault. :(

    I know in my heart and mind BM is right I should go the long way, take little steps be patient.8)
     
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    Generally the 70-297 is taken after you have passed the exams I have listed, there may be some differences as some people may have taken the Windows 2k OS MCP instead of the XP one.

    As BBM has mentioned you don’t have to take those exams but it helps. For example one of the requirements of the 70-297 is to ‘Create the conceptual design of the DNS infrastructure’, DNS is covered in the 70-291 therefore this is obviously helpful for the 70-297.
     
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    Your system administrator is a to55er.

    I’ve worked with people like that before and it *really* annoys me when basic info about a network is not shared. This can be IP addresses, passwords and general network design.

    As long as I have the passwords to log in I can generally figure it out for myself. It shouldn’t have to be that way but that’s life! :biggrin
     
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    Thanks Sparky!

    It's good to read your posts again.

    Is that a cigar your smoking??
     
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    70-297 is an MCP exam... just like every other 2000, XP, 2003, SQL, and Developer exam. They're ALL MCP exams.

    You don't get separate MCP "certifications" for each exam you've taken. You get the MCP certification for taking your first Microsoft exam (excluding the new MCTS and MCITP exams). Therefore, you get the MCP certification just once.

    Microsoft realizes that saying you're an MCP doesn't mean much because it could mean that you took an OS exam, or a SQL admin exam, or a VB.NET exam, or an Exchange exam. Your MCP certification won't indicate what exam you passed. That's why they've developed a new generation of certifications with the MCTS and MCITP certification tracks. There are a blue million MCTS certifications (I exaggerate somewhat) that each require between 1-3 exams (most require 1 or 2) and specify exactly what you've passed. For example, if you take the 70-640 exam, you'll be granted the MCTS: Windows Server 2008 Active Directory Configuration certification. Sorta long, but it beats just saying "I'm an MCP! Hire me!".
     
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    Yup! :biggrin
     
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    Yikes! Being in an encouraging, knowledge-sharing environment is crucial. I can say definitively that one of the reasons I was able to advance quickly in the IT field was because when I was a systems admin, the network administrator encouraged me to help him with network admin tasks. Later, when prospective companies asked me whether I had configured routers or firewalls, or administered servers, I could confidently reply that I had.

    People who hoard information and never share it fear for their jobs because they generally aren't good enough to be retained otherwise. Those who truly know what they're doing and are good at doing it don't have that fear. Therefore, if you can do a lateral shift to a company with a more supportive peer group and/or more supportive management structure, I'd encourage you to do so. It'll make a difference in your career, long term. :)
     
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    Thank you :thumbleft
     
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    Glad to be of assistance.

    Be sure to check out my other reply to your post on the previous page... wouldn't want you to miss it, because it's much more important than the one you thanked me about!
     
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    What are you going to do when they ban smoking in public places?

    Do you use Windows server 2003 where you work?
     
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    Hmmm - Interesting and good advice, what you said in the last paragraph is spot on, because the system administrator seems to know more about oil rigs than IT. I don't know why anyone would get a thrill out of photographing oil riggs but he does.

    everytime i have asked him about the software he is working on he changes the subject to oil riggs and even shows me his photo collection.

    BM - thanks you've given me food for thought.:biggrin 8)
     
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    Only smoke cigars on special occasions so it’s all good.

    In regard to Windows 2003, yes, support around 35 Windows 2003 servers (combo of standard and SBS). I’ve installed some of them and migrated from 2k to 2003. 8)

    Edit: Smoking has been banned in public places in Scotland for ages btw! 8)
     
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