Effective Permissions Tool & Exam sims

Discussion in 'Windows Server 2003 / 2008 / 2012 / 2016' started by Modey, May 22, 2006.

  1. Modey

    Modey Terabyte Poster

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    You see before you a miffed Modey!

    Was just having a couple of short 10 question sessions on the Measure Up Practice Test software (for 70-290).

    So I get a question to do with NTFS & Share permissions, a group should be able to delete files & folders when working at the console of the fileserver, but shouldn't be able to when accessing the fileserver via a network share. What's the best way to determine if the share permissions are overriding the NTFS permissions of one folder in particular?

    Two of the answers were clearly wrong, so I instantly discounted them. One option was to use the Effective permissions tool and another was to have a user test out the folder via a network share.

    Neither sounded good to me as I would test this personally if I had been the one to implent this particular security policy. Their 'correct' answer was to use the effective permissions tool as this tab shows the combined share & NTFS permissions for a user or group.

    At this point I started swearing and shaking my fist at the screen (which seems to happen quite freqently when I review my answers :) ).

    They even made reference to a MOC and provided a link etc as the source of their information.

    Could someone please tell me I'm not imagining things? The effective permissions tool DOES NOT show combined share & NTFS permissions, it can only show an approximation of NTFS permissions for the user or group in question. This is MS's official line on Technet, and I have also seen this from other sources.

    Grrr!!

    Anyway, the reason I am really miffed is it meant I got 70% instead of 80% on the test which is their pass mark, and I wanted a pass dammit, even if it was only 10 questions!!!

    Anyway, I have calmed down now, which was the reason for typing all the above, sorry if it's bored any still awake at this point. :)
     
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  2. Mr.Cheeks

    Mr.Cheeks 1st ever Gold Member! Gold Member

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    cant help you here mate, but i did enjoy your anger...
     
  3. AJ

    AJ 01000001 01100100 01101101 01101001 01101110 Administrator

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    You are of course quite right Modey. You link to the M$ site also links to THIS page as well. That clearly states that

     
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  4. Bluerinse
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    Hmmm, I understand how frustrating it is to try and understand all this stuff.

    How odd that the Effective Permissions Tool does not really show the effective permissions :blink
     
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  5. hbroomhall

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    IMHO this points up one of my biggest gripes with the training part of this industry - the number of errors in training docs/exams etc.

    With some publishers I now have to double check stuff where I am dubious, simply because I have seen so many errors from them in the past!

    Harry.
     
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  6. mjtibbs

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    Thanks for that... I wanted clarification myself as to wether the effective permissions tool included share perms, which I now know that they dont ;)

    -tibbz
     
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