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design a 20 seat internet cafe

Discussion in 'The Lounge - Off Topic' started by Wassup, Apr 4, 2007.

  1. Wassup

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    This may come to being, but I am thinking of work as a consultant and I am trying to create a scenario whereby I start up an internet cafe :blink

    You have been given £10K to spend on computing , other factors such as rent, electricity, furniture, ISP, routers, firewall, switches, AV software are to be considered additional to this.


    So far I'd go with a copy of W2k3 server with a 25 CAL @ £1,700
    with a HP ProLiant ML150 G3 box (1gb RAM, 80gb HDD, Dual Core Xeon) @ £650
    then 20 x Dell Dimension c521 + 17" monitor (Sempron 3400+, Vista Home Basic, 1gb RAM, 160gb HDD) @ £330 each = £6600

    That comes in at £8950.

    Anyone else have suggestions?

    Comments welcome :D

    (i think that getting my first mcp today has gone to my head :oops:
     
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    You might want to consider picking up a copy of this book:

    http://www.certforums.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=13801
     
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  3. Wassup

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    interesting looking book, thanks for the tip
     
  4. Bluerinse
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    Hmm, question, can Vista home basic join a Server 2003 domain?

    I presume you want to roll out group policy to lock these boxes down?
     
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  6. BosonMichael
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    I believe it cannot.
     
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    From what I have read about vista so far they would have to use vista home premium. And it would support something called quattro home sever? Have never heard of that before. Anyway you can read it here.

    http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_editions.asp
     
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  8. BosonMichael
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    Why would you need a server at all?
     
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  9. Wassup

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    mmm interesting point about the vista angle, so maybe not the OS of choice for now.

    Linux ; good idea but I don't have much experience with it and I only imagine it being more a hassle than anything else.

    I would use policies to limit what folk can do on them and having a centralised server would solve that issue, as well as being able to offer control of high quality photo printing facilities, other shared resources and monitoring usage.
     
  10. Sparky
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    1 server running Terminal Server
    20 winterms (WYSE)

    That should cut your desktop costs. :biggrin
     
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  11. JonnyMX

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    You'll need 20 chairs.

    Sorry to have to bring it up, but the boffins here will miss that.
    Gotta start with the basics sometimes!

    :rolleyes:
     
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    Didn't you read this?

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  13. JonnyMX

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    Yes.
    But it's worth being specific...
    Don't want to be caught out without chairs!
     
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  14. BosonMichael
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    You can use local policies to limit what folks can do on them. Besides, Vista won't let you do too much without an admin password due to UAC.
     
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  15. Wassup

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    thanks for the replies

    I'm not that keen on thin clients as I find them very limiting in terms of a general multimedia experience...

    and chairs .. check , tables .. check :D

    I'm going to have to get a copy of vista sometime soon and have a play with it I think..
    I see that Longhorn Server 2007 CTP is out now so I'll see if I can lay my hands on that one, as it will be one for the future
    http://www.betanews.com/article/Microsoft_Issues_New_Longhorn_Server_CTP/1175793336
     
  16. Sparky
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    So you want all 20 PCs pumping out music?

    Better add headphones to the list! :biggrin
     
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  17. Wassup

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    headphones .. check

    :D I'll get some Skull Candy SkullCrushers to keep the noise inside the bins ;)

    oh! and padlocks and cable locks all round
     
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    I'd go with 20 ChipPC Jack PCs and a TS deployment
    TS can be a bit pricey but you could use NX or something equiv

    and an ISA 2006 Firewall configured as a proxy and webcache

    The Jack PCs are PoE, and require substantial force to remove them from the wall bracket
    they were originally designed for the US military and obviously fit in perfectly in risky environments such as classrooms and internet cafes

    http://www.chippc.com/thin-clients/jack-pc/thin-client.asp?p=jack-pc-6900

    Thin Clients offer a better ROI on desktops as they an easily have a 6 - 7 year lifecyle over the standard 3 -4 year for a PC
    coupled with an application virtualisation platform such as Softricity and your pretty set for an easy to maintain and current net cafe!

    I wish we had such techonlogy ten years ago (my first job was in a net cafe)
    we strungled to maintain 30 systems and over time our 64k leased line became a bit of a bottle neck as the net got more and more dynamic
     
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