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Citrix thin client solution to replace a terminal server.

Discussion in 'Software' started by Dubfire, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. Dubfire

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    Hi,

    I currently have 30-30 users who login via a thin client connection using a terminal server.


    I’m going to attempt to push to get Citrix installed to replace this terminal server set-up. Rather than buying a separate server for this I was thinking to install the application on the current terminal server (16GB ram, 3.0GHz CPU). Would Citrix Zen App 6.5 be the way ahead?

    Cheers,

    Dubfire.
     
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  2. dales

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    I depends on what you want to get from changing from TS to xenapp, what are you going to use it for are you going to publish applications or entire desktops to your users. From memory I think xenapp 6 required server 2k8 r2 (or at least a x64 server) so you'll need to make sure you OS install is compatible (although with 16GB ram I assume it is). For xenapp you could look at the Fundamentals version which should suit 30 users quite nicely or even have a proper look into windows RDS which is actually really good and should work out cheaper in the long run. Also do all your thin clients support ICA if not then you'll have to purchase new ones as well.

    If you let us know why you want to move away from TS and to xenapp then we can advise you a little more solidly.
     
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  3. wagnerk
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    Mate, have a look at Citrix's VDI in a Box. We've just gone thru the testing phase and it seems meet our meets. The only thing with this VDI solution are the requirements, you're looking at approx 8-10 users per core and about 500mb for a XP client and/or 1.5 to 2GB per client for a Windows 7 client.
     
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  4. dales

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    I love vdi in a box its such a simple but effective product I didn't initally suggest that because of the 1.5-2 GB windows 7 recommendation which would push the server mentioned way oversubscribed, If he's willing to buy a bit of extra hardware though fair enough. Also he'd have to either use xenserver on the host or purchase a vmware essentials license at minimum because esxi free wont allow access to the api's that kaviza requires.

    Wagnerk, I'd love to hear your thoughts on vdi-in-a-box and how you scaled your proof of concept, did you factor in any SSD's at all in the build and how big did your base image size get to?
     
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  5. Sparky
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    What are the issues with the current Terminal Server setup mate?
     
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  6. Dubfire

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    Hi Guys, apologies for the late reply.

    Anyway, I'm thinking a xenapp 6.5 solution running on server hyper V 2008 platform may be the way ahead.

    The server is over 4 years old and out of warranty now so I've recommended purchasing two more current servers to house the application.

    One of the main reasons to move away from TS is to allow users to use a duel screen which is essential for their job. Plus the added functionality that the Citrix platform will offer in regards to ease of administration is also a big pull.

    Cheers for all the replies guys - appreciated.
     
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  7. Dubfire

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    I actually had an issue today relating to TS:

    Basically, remote users login locally to the machine then connect to the terminal server via a RDP session on their desktop, enter their domain credentials and access the terminal server. Today, out of the blue, users were getting the error that the TS had exceeded the maximum amount of connections. I presume this is not a license issue as I would expect to see more of a overt message to that effect. Of course, only 3 admin logins sessions are allowed at one time, but why are users receiving the same error? When I logged on to the TS server only 1-2 users were logged on, so why this occurred I'm not certain.

    Any ideas guys?
     
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  8. Adzmobile

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    XenApp could help with your problem you could do hosted desktops.. make sure you check the application compatibility first extensively before you do anything otherwise you will end up in a mess!
     
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  9. Sparky
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    Do you have TS licenses mate? If not you will be limited to two connections (plus the third console connection).
     
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