Certs, quals and experience for System and Network Admin

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  1. jo74

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    Out of curiosity, what certs, qualifications and experience do you need to become a Systems or Network Administrator.
    Might a Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator be of some use :biggrin
     
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    Hi Jo, all depends really. AN MCSA would be advantageous but not necessarily a pre requisite. Your A+ and N+ would certainy stand you in good stead but I would say good experience at 1st level support would stand you in the best stead for a trainee Sys Admin / Network support role. The MCSA merely proves you are of a certain level of intelligence. Hope thats some help??! Jim
     
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    Commercial experience first, certs are a bonus. 8)
     
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    How long does it take to progress from first line support? Or is there no average time? Is it one of those 'how long is a piece of string'?:)
     
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    Its all down to the individual mate, a bright ambitious person can do it in 3-6 months. My mates been in 1st line (Helpdesk) for 4 years.
     
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    No definite answer mate, I was lucky enough to go from 1st line to network manager after 9 months. One of those right place at the right time kinda things.
     
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    9 months :ohmy Was that with just the A+/N+ or further certs?
     
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    Is that a suggestion that your mate is neither bright or ambitious? :p :twisted:

    Seriously though, how fast or how slowly you move up the ladder is dependent on a lot of things including but not limited to the company you get in working for and YOU.
     
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    ha ha no no, he's doing his degree part time so that level of responsibility suits him right now. Plus he's not a confident person, which I've found helps in IT.
     
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    Absolutely. You could be a genius with super ambition but if you work for a small firm there's often no jobs to go any higher. In that case you should always move on IMO.
     
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    I'd agree with that, hence the updating of my CV! Not much career progression available in a department of 3!
     
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    Ha ha er no. If you can get into a really big company your sorted. 382000 staff in my company . . . .
     
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    what is you company called? Leeds :D
     
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    Bradford actually ha ha No its IBM but 382k is the world wide employee count
     
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    At the time I had no certs, just my MSc.
     
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    Oh right :dry
    So what are the chances of fairly rapid progress for someone without even a BSc :(. Although I have the A+/Network+/Security+
     
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    I think you are looking for specifics here Jo, and there aren't any. Just because somone else managed to gain a position in a particular time with a particular set of skills, quals etc... really won't mean it will be of any relavence to anyone else.

    Everyone is different, everyone progresses at different rates, then factor in different organisations with a myriad of different deparpment structures etc... The permuations are pretty mind boggling. The best advice is suck it and see!
     
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    Ouch put the claws away lol. :ohmy

    I mean I want to do a degree (Degree- The ability to drink a yard of ale and smoke weird substances, sleep in till the crack of noon oh! and shows an ability to learn!!). :eek:

    to back up my proffesional certs with academic. You are right though experience all the way. :biggrin
     
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