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Certforums group exercise!

Discussion in 'Training & Development' started by Rob1234, Oct 24, 2012.

  1. Rob1234

    Rob1234 Megabyte Poster

    I noticed a lot of people myself included have asked before about which certs to do in what order etc. and I thought it would be a good idea to create some cert road maps for certian areas eg. 1st line support, networking, programming, etc.

    First let me apologize for the road map I have attached I was going to create a really slick road map but a project has come up at work and is going to take most of my time so I thought I would put what I have done up here so certforum members can work on it together and create a good cert road map, I envisioned it having hyperlinks to more info about each cert also I did not think these road maps should touch on other forms of education college/uni etc. or the fact that you should get real world experience I just thought these could be purely from a cert point of view.

    The cert road map I have attached it aimed at entry level job area's if people want to create more in depth ones about network etc. that would be good.

    So if anyone wants to work on this feel free to edit the one I have attached hopefully will help some people in the future.

    Attached Files:

    Certifications: A few.
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  2. pete.grant

    pete.grant Byte Poster

    Great idea Rob. Likey!
    Certifications: A+ IT Technician, CCENT, CEH, CPTS, CIW Security Analyst, ITIL v3 Foundation, Master CIW Administrator, MCITP (Windows Server 2008:SA), MCSA on Windows Server 2008, MCSA:Security on Windows Server 2003, MCTS (70-648, 70-652), Network+, SCNS, Security+, Server+
  3. dales

    dales Gigabyte Poster

    I feel a visio diagram coming on :)
    Certifications: vExpert 2014+2015+2016,VCP-DT,CCE-V, CCE-AD, CCP-AD, CCEE, CCAA XenApp, CCA Netscaler, XenApp 6.5, XenDesktop 5 & Xenserver 6,VCP3+5,VTSP,MCSA MCDST MCP A+ ITIL F
    WIP: Nothing
  4. SimonD

    SimonD Terabyte Poster Moderator

    Umm I disagree with having the EDA as a pre-cursor for a first line support role just like I disagree with the CCNA and the Server + being pre-cursor certifications to 1st line roles.

    For example the EDA expects you to have a decent understanding of various enterprise based server technology (MDT, SCCM etc) and that's not going to be something that a 1st line support engineer is likely to have.

    Ideally you're looking at the top 4 certifications from your document as probably the base level for a 1st line engineer with the idea of specialising into other areas at that point and branching out to networking, server or general desktop training (I am not leaving out Storage, DBA or Security work etc just touching on the three mentioned areas for the moment) and taking further courses at that point.

    Again remember that Microsoft and Cisco expect that the people taking the MCITP or Associate exams are already experienced engineers with 12 - 24 months experience (yes, even for desktop based MCITP's). It's only having that experience that you become a better engineer and don't have to just rely on the books to back you up.

    It is a good idea however but I do think that more input from others to get a general feel for where people think the lines exist between 1st\2nd and 3rd line courses\exams come into it. It's probably also at the 2nd\3rd line stage that you start bringing in additional career tracks (virtualisation, storage, project management, service management etc) so that people realise that just because you started out in desktop doesn't mean you end your career there.

    Dale, with the launch of Visio 2013 today I am expecting great things from you now :p
    Certifications: CNA | CNE | CCNA | MCP | MCP+I | MCSE NT4 | MCSA 2003 | Security+ | MCSA:S 2003 | MCSE:S 2003 | MCTS:SCCM 2007 | MCTS:Win 7 | MCITP:EDA7 | MCITP:SA | MCITP:EA | MCTS:Hyper-V | VCP 4 | ITIL v3 Foundation | VCP 5 DCV | VCP 5 Cloud | VCP6 NV | VCP6 DCV | VCAP 5.5 DCA
    WIP: VCP6-CMA, VCAP-DCD and Linux + (and possibly VCIX-NV).
  5. dales

    dales Gigabyte Poster

    Downloading now......
    Certifications: vExpert 2014+2015+2016,VCP-DT,CCE-V, CCE-AD, CCP-AD, CCEE, CCAA XenApp, CCA Netscaler, XenApp 6.5, XenDesktop 5 & Xenserver 6,VCP3+5,VTSP,MCSA MCDST MCP A+ ITIL F
    WIP: Nothing
  6. Rob1234

    Rob1234 Megabyte Poster

    That is fine if people think we should add or remove certain certs when I was adding those certs I was also amusing that some of the certs would be completed by people working in a 1st line role. eg I know people doing a junior/1st line network role and are working towards there CCNA.

    But if people think it is better we can remove them and add them to the road map for the more advanced job roles but also if someone was trying to break in to IT had the A+, N+, ITIL and was still looking for a role I would recommend doing the server+ rather than doing nothing at all cert wise.

    Discussion is good though I don't want to create a road map that leads people to a dead end :D
    Certifications: A few.
  7. BB88

    BB88 Kilobyte Poster Gold Member

    No, that's what poor GPS systems do!
    Certifications: AS Computing, A+, Network+, 70-680, 70-410
    WIP: MCSA: Server 2012
  8. SimonV

    SimonV Petabyte Poster Administrator

    A great idea, if you want to add some text to it etc I can make it into an article that we can point members towards.
    Certifications: MOS Master 2003, CompTIA A+, MCSA:M, MCSE
    WIP: Keeping CF Alive...

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