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CCTV Storage Solution

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by madman045, Feb 9, 2007.

  1. madman045

    madman045 Kilobyte Poster Premium Member

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    Im not sure if this is the right forum, but here goes

    A client wants CCTV in every room, it needs to be in colour and have sound.

    The camera's will be IP camera's, they will record 24hrs a day, 7 days a week and the video from each camera will need to be kept for a month

    Also they want to be able to view each camera online via the web.

    Now here's the fun part, there will be a minimal 25 camera's!

    Can anyone recommend something for this?

    Thanks

    Andy
     
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  2. Baba O'Riley

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    I don't have anything specific to recommend but I know there are quite a few solutions out there for this kind of thing. Some record to your PC and some will record direct to a hosted server so that if someone nicks your PC you still have the footage of them doing it. Check out a few of the more hardware oriented PC mags for up to date reviews.

    By the way, is the guy that wants this paranoid or what?:D
     
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  3. hbroomhall

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    What is not mentioned (and this is typical of this sort of silly (excuse me) spec) is the resolution required.

    Also what is his budget?

    This can be done easily - but the cost will be *very* high for 'good' quality real-time feeds.

    Harry.
     
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    Is this a brothel? :twisted:
     
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  5. hbroomhall

    hbroomhall Petabyte Poster Gold Member

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    :p :p Oddly enough that was my thought - but I decided not to tempt fate by asking!

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  6. Boycie
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    my previous employer used to install all types of fire and security devices and they always used these people;

    http://www.digitalvideos.co.uk/

    their equipment is fitted in supermarkets, department stores, bus stations etc - it is good gear.
     
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    You guys have such dirty minds, you wouldn't catch me having those kind of thoughts :twisted:
     
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  8. simongrahamuk
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    simongrahamuk Hmmmmmmm?

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    Some kind of SAN backbone to store all that data is going to be needed.
     
  9. hbroomhall

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    Surely that would depend on the resolution required, and the frame-rate.

    Harry.
     
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  10. simongrahamuk
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    simongrahamuk Hmmmmmmm?

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    24/7 coverage, with sound and in colour? Even at the lowest resolution it's still going to be a 'lot' of data.

    How long does the data need to be kept for?

    EDIT: Ah, just noticed, a month.
     
  11. supag33k

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    Sounds like both a streaming and a storage issue.

    Even at a modest resolution you are looking at hundreds of gigabytes in storage.

    For example I have seen where just four hours reasonally high quality camera work per camera can take upwards of 100MB by itself.

    therefore...
    6 * 100 Mb = 600Mb for 24 hours
    24 hours * 7 = 4.2 Gb per week per camera!
    this equals around 20Gb per camera per month estimated.

    now times the whole shebang by 25 camaras and...

    500Gb is quite feaseable per month I reckon

    Basically a middle of the road estimate.

    Plus add the streaming and indexing software...real coin my friend !

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    They look okay - similar to offerings we get in Oz...

    I reckon 2 times 16 channel units, plus the software, plus a decent server with tape backup [just in case]
     
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  13. madman045

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    Thanks all, nothing as exciting as to a brothel!!!

    We have not been given a budget, but asked to quote for it.

    Reason being, is each room will have 25 brand new PC's, as the site operates 7 days a week, and its a busy location, they dont want any of their equipment going missing, so much that they want each bit of hardware alarmed!!!

    I was thinking of a SAN myself for the CCTV data as at least the server data onsite will be an automated backup of an Autoloader and if they want the CCTV data backing, up then its going to be a seriously big or multiple autoloaders.
     
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  14. hbroomhall

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    If it is a security thing then while the resolution needs to be reasonable (to identify the individuals involved) you could lower the frame-rate substantialy from the 25fps which is the norm.

    Harry.
     
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  15. BosonMichael
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    We went with a security company who offered a ready-made solution. They installed the cameras, the monitoring box, drilled the holes, ran the cables, everything. Far easier than me spec'ing everything out and trying to create something myself from scratch.

    Sometimes, ya just gotta stand back and let someone else do it. 8)
     
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    madman045 Kilobyte Poster Premium Member

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    That sounds good to me, who was it you used out of interest?

    Thanks

    Andy
     
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  17. Boycie
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    Andy,

    One thing to bare in mind if a) you are in the UK, and b) if it is to be used for the police etc - it has to have the date and time on all of the footage if it is to be used as evidence.
     
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  18. BosonMichael
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    It was a local security company in Nashville. Can't remember the name - I'll check out the alarm monitoring signs when I go to work on Monday. They got the technology from someone else - I can see the name of it when I get into the server room (also on Monday).
     
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