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Cat5 Outside?

Discussion in 'Networks' started by Gav, Jul 30, 2009.

  1. Gav

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    I'm planning on running STP, outside from one room to another. The length of the cable will be less than a metre, and it won't be touching the ground, or even the wall.

    I know STP is for protection against electrical interference, but I would imagine it helps somewhat against water too (and I have more STP than UTP... :oops:)

    What are your thoughts?

    - Gav
     
  2. Boycie
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    I'd run it inside some waterproof conduit if possible. :)

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  3. danielno8

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    I ran a UTP outside one window in through another for about a year had no issues.
     
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  4. wagnerk
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    Personally, I would use external Cat5 cables, something like this :)

    -ken
     
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  5. supernova

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    Dont see a great problem short distances.

    You may want some surge\lightening strike protection on it just in case.

    If its between buildings then i wouldn't
     
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  6. Mr.Cheeks

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    same here, and counting! it's a risky world out there!
     
  7. soundian

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    STP won't give you any better weather protection than UTP. If the outer sheath goes on either you'd be in the same boat.
    If you make sure it can't move around and rub against the stonework then it'll last as long as the outer sheath takes to photo-degrade sufficiently to let water in.
     
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  8. BosonMichael
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    Personally, I wouldn't put my network devices at risk.

    What's wrong with wireless?
     
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  9. Bluerinse
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    I doubt it would be a problem.
     
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  10. BrotherBill

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    If you're just running from one room to the next, why can't you run through a lower corner of the wall? A small insignificant hole, just inside the corner to avoid hitting a stud, would accomodate pulling a cat 5 cable through without any issues, and still be easy enough to patch again once it was no longer needed.
     
  11. wagnerk
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    Just a thought, why not get yourself some homeplugs? Depending on what version you go for, you can get anywhere from 85Mbps to 200Mbps. I got myself a cheap set and it works great, even over 2 extension leads (both have built-in surge-protection), one at each end. No drilling, no need for extra cabling.

    That's provided that wireless (like BM suggested) isn't up to the job.

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  12. supernova

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    Dont use homeplugs, if your into amateur radio they cause problems.
     
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  13. zebulebu

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    Aaaaand the number of people that would apply to nowadays?

    About 237 I reckon.
     
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  14. Gav

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    Exactly why I'm not using them. That's why I have so much STP to begin with.

    I'll try and get some tubing, or even just some hose and use that. Thanks all :D
     
  15. BosonMichael
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    236, now. Rest in peace, number 237. :gos
     
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  16. wagnerk
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    Are you sure? There's a joint test between Homeplugs and ARRL regarding this and the conclusion was:

    Unless I'm mistaken; it is possible, I'm not into Ham radio (plus I haven't read the whole article).

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  17. Gav

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    Everything seems to interfere on Ham Radio. I don't use it that much, but when I do I use decoding apps, which need a good signal to work.

    Anyway, I gave up with the outdoor idea. The only reason I wanted to do it is because two holes were already there :oops:

    I got the drill out and went through the wall, which took a while because the two rooms are actually at different levels (gotta love the Victorians).

    My 'node0' is looking pretty good now:
    [​IMG]

    The double gang socket is going to have a four port RJ45 socket, instead of a patch panel. Naturally, once I've wired it in, the router will be plugged into the power socket.
     
  18. prancing-moose

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    If you do need to run outside in the future, I have had reasonable success running a couple of Cat5/5e cables within a rubber/plastic hosepipe (new so it has not got water in it). Logic being that if it carries water without it leaking out, then it shouldn't permeate in and damage the cable.

    The last time I did it was to network enable the workshop (sorry shed!) at a friends house - just buried the hose in flower beds!

    Only caveat is to ensure that the open end of the hose are brought into the building, I also filed the ends with silicon sealer to prevent anything else (insects) getting in.
     
  19. Gav

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    Yeah, I was going to get some hose, but I decided to go through the wall instead because the room was being decorated anyway :D
     
  20. LukeP

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    Also Gav how does the BeBox behave hanged on the wall like this. Mine used to overheat a lot (Thomson model) and I had to take it off and place it vertically so the vents aren't covered.
     
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