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BIS or BES?

Discussion in 'Internet, Connectivity and Communications' started by Boycie, Aug 14, 2009.

  1. Boycie
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    Boycie Senior Beer Tester

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    We have a client who has only 3 Storm handsets and wants the full functionality of BES who is currently running BIS.

    I have been asked to document this and give the client the option of both with associated costs with pro's and con's. Any articles, or just general pointers appreciated!

    I hope they do go for BES as it will be another project to get stuck in to :onthepc

    Cheers,

    Boyce
     
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  2. danielno8

    danielno8 Gigabyte Poster

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    Are they currently set up with exchange/lotus notes/groupware?

    Would you expect their blackberry user base to expand in the future?
     
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  3. Boycie
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    Boycie Senior Beer Tester

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    Hi,

    Currently running Exchange 2007 on Server 2008 so need to do some digging to make sure it will work.

    As for the user base, it may do although only by one or two i would have imagined.

    Cheers,
     
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  4. madman045

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    Do they have a spare 2003 Server?

    http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/server/offers/professional_express.jsp

    First licence is free and then I believe its £99 per handset

    Worth considering

    One other thing, I am assuming they are with Vodafone, if they dont already have it, there might be a charge from Vodafone for the enterprise action required for BES on the handsets

    Andy
     
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  5. AJ

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    yea we had problems with BES running on 2008 server had to put it on a 2k3 server.
     
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    Here is one thing that I'd bring up... granted with only 3 clients, it isn't a huge deal.

    The licensing cost gets out of control. Approximately $99 per BES license. Approximately $50 a month per device that requires the Blackberry Enterprise Service. Also, now a new annual per device charge on top of the above charges. It just seems to be a big cash cow. Smartphones can connect to an Exchange network without all of the added fees and costs.

    Of course, the managers here don't care. :)

    Regardless, those would be the cons. The pros... well, it gets them their email... that's about it. :) I like the fact that if they are company phones, you can wipe and lock the phone remotely should an employee quit or the phone is lost. This is great to keep company information confidential.

    Good Luck!
     
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  7. Boycie
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    Boycie Senior Beer Tester

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    Guys,

    Thanks for all the input and links! they must decide if they need the full functionality of BES Express and the cost of a new server etc.

    i'll keep you posted.

    Cheers!
     
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  8. Sparky
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    Why not BPS? (BlackBerry Professional Software)

    http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/professional/

    I think it goes upto 15-30 users and would be ideal for what you need.

    BIS is ok but only supports email so no calendar or contacts which is the first thing users complain about.
     
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  9. BrizoH

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    Yep I'd go for this, also while Blackberry give you one license your mobile provider will be able to bundle more free (O2 were offering us an extra 5 licenses, further licenses were about £250 for 5 users)

    On top of that just your line rental will go up for each device to accomodate BES
     
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  10. Boycie
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    Boycie Senior Beer Tester

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    Guy's sorry about the delay in getting back to you on this one. I guess the sudden urgency of this will disappear as they need another server to put 2k3 on.

    Sparks and BrizoH - Did suggest BPS in the end.

    Thanks again.
     
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