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Apprentice job in Salisbury

Discussion in 'Employment & Jobs' started by UKDarkstar, Nov 10, 2009.

  1. UKDarkstar
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    UKDarkstar Terabyte Poster

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    OK folks, spotted this one on my morning trawl round for jobs.

    If you're looking to get into IT thent here's an apprentice job going. Details courtesy of www.jobcentreplus.gov.uk :

    Location SALISBURY
    Hours 35 HOURS OVER 5 DAYS
    Wage £95 PER WEEK
    Work Pattern Days
    Employer Computersmiths
    Closing Date 16/11/2009

    Pension No details held
    Duration PERMANENT ONLY

    Description

    The position is for an Apprentice IT Technician and will involve upgrading and repairing computers. Dealing with customers' queries both in person and on the phone. Work will be carried out both at the office and at customer sites. The training will be carried out 'on the job' whilst working towards an NVQ. There may also be opportunities to carry out Microsoft Certification during the course of the training. Skills Required - No formal skills necessary however an interest or knowledge of IT systems would be an advantage. Candidate must hold a full driving licence. Qualifications Required - No qualifications are required for the right candidate. Personal Qualities - Self-motivated and ambitious. The ability to prioritise own workload. The ability to work on own initiative. Excellent communicator. Enthusiasm to learn and progress.

    How to apply

    You can apply for this job by sending a CV/written application to Richard Smith at Computersmiths, richard@computersmiths.co.uk.

    Company website : http://computersmiths.co.uk/index.htm

    Hope it's of help to some of you trying to get started
     
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  2. Alex399

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    £95 per week :eek: for an apprentice :ohmy that kind of makes me feel like a tramp considering what I'm earning as a full time engineering recruitment consultant, I better hurry the **** up with my book reading for my A+ and N+ :D
     
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  3. UKDarkstar
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    UKDarkstar Terabyte Poster

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    I'm sure if you read all the desperate threads from people trying to get into IT someone may feel it's worthwhile just to get a foot in the door.

    I think it's comparable to the apprenticeship Ken had on offer at his school.
     
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  4. dazza786

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    I think he was saying that's rather high.. :rolleyes: :p
     
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  5. Fergal1982

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    high? Thats low as hell! Thats not even standard minimum wage (95/35 = £2.71p/h).

    It only works out at about £4940 a year, and given that its requiring a 35 hour week (ie, full time), I can just see no feasible way to survive on that, short of still living at home, and not having to pay rent, food, bills, etc.
     
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  6. danielno8

    danielno8 Gigabyte Poster

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    ^ thats a pretty standard apprentice wage i think. Mechanics/plumbers/electrician etc.

    And yeah, low as hell.
     
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  7. Fergal1982

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    its the legal wage for apprenticeships, but theres really no way of taking it if you live away from home.
     
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  8. danielno8

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    yep. i would choose go to uni for 4 years instead.
     
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  9. soundian

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    I think they could claim rent and council tax rebates from the local council because of the low wage.

    As far as I can tell, they're really aimed at school-leavers who don't go on to higher education. Earning £95 a week and getting some priceless work experience seems like a much better deal than paying all your expenses while your studying full-time.
     
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  10. Alex399

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    I'm sorry I must not have been with it and I misunderstood Darkstars original post... :oops:

    I some how managed to think it was £95 per day :eek:

    In that case I take back what I said about feeling like a tramp, I couldn't live on £95 per week that would just about cover over half of my bills on a monthly basis, BUT! living at home with parents I would consider that for sure as a sarting point! good things come to those who wait aka waiting for that higher paid position!
     
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  11. UKDarkstar
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    Guys - the purpose was not to generate a discussion on the value of the position and the pay. We have had a lot of new members on recently bemoaning that they can't get into IT without experience and I just spotted this as a possible solution for some of them.

    These positions do exist but come up rarely. We all know the downside on pay etc. but as a starting point for someone in their teens with no experience it may be a help.
     
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  12. BosonMichael
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    ...which, though it will enable you to get a degree, will provide you with exactly zero real-world IT experience.

    I can guarantee you that someone working in this position for even a few months would be more attractive to an entry-level employer than someone with a degree and no experience.
     
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  13. danielno8

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    oh really...

    perhaps. My degree has 1 years on the job as part of the course.
     
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    I simply bring it up because many degree programs do not include an OTJ option. As long as it's a real IT job, then it'll be experience.

    Still, consider: someone with four years of experience will typically be preferred over someone with a four year degree and one year of experience. The reason is because a degree isn't necessary for entry-level IT jobs. A degree merely opens up opportunities for you later in your career that would otherwise be closed to you.
     
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    My post was merely what i would choose to do. Although i do also understand your point, for me, I prefer choosing the option i did.
     
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  16. jk2447

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    It was a good and rare find mate, nice one. Ideal for a youngster who's just left school. Lets drop the thread jacking and get back to encouraging people, particularly at the entry level where IMO life is hardest getting/keeping that 1st role.
     
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  17. BosonMichael
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    That is fine; I post my advice for everyone else's benefit.
     
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    Personally, I don't think it's thread jacking at all. The amount of pay is entirely relevant to the discussion and should be considered even for youngsters.

    That said, even unpaid experience is better than no experience at all. So... there's all the encouragement anyone needs, mate: the truth!
     
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  19. UKDarkstar
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    Exactly m8. Same thing (with the thread) happened the last time I posted a vacancy so I just don't think I'll bother any more. I'm starting to find the off-topic stuff and bickering all the time gets a bit much :rolleyes:
     
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  20. jk2447

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    Don't be put off mate, its very handy to people to see there are still apprentice and entry positions out there as I'm sure they are like gold dust these days.
     
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