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Apply for ordinary office job but help with IT? Foot in the door?

Discussion in 'Employment & Jobs' started by jo74, Dec 8, 2008.

  1. jo74

    jo74 Byte Poster

    What do other members think of this idea?
    I apply for ordinary office jobs but emphasise my IT skills in any interviews, suggesting that I could 'help out' with the IT. Would I get my foot in the door in the IT industry?
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  2. Sparky
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    Sparky Zettabyte Poster Moderator

    Never seen it done before.

    Might work in a small company though.
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  3. wagnerk
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    wagnerk aka kitkatninja Moderator

    There are two ways to think about this:

    1. They will be happy about this, they will let you dual role (or at least job shadow during quiet periods).

    2. They won't be happy with this, they'll see this as only a stepping stone for you where if you get the job, but don't get to work with IT, you'll just leave at the first opportunity.

    I do have to say that it is one way to get into IT. A few years before I got into IT, I was contacted by the IT manager who heard that I was studying IT in the evenings (when I was doing agency office work for a very large company in Watford) and we started to talk about a job opening, however it didn't lead to anything as I wanted to get into programming and not support (as that was what I was studying).

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  4. Arroryn
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    Arroryn we're all dooooooomed

    It depends on what the job role entails, and whether there will be a conflict of interests.

    Will you be dual contracted to each department? If you are only volunteer shadowing, then expect to work out of hours, and possibly not for any OT, as the department may not want any extra strain on their budget.

    When I used to work in sales, they tried to draft a contract that had me working in sales and providing on site IT support - but in peak sales periods, the interests of each department would have been compromised by the priorities required from the other.

    If you're going for office jobs, and they only state office work, then I wouldn't emphasise the point too much in interview TBH. If you're overkeen on the IT side, they may not give you the job as they'll obviously see themselves as a stepping stone. Just my 2c.
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  5. BosonJosh

    BosonJosh Gigabyte Poster

    I think you might be better off trying to get a proper job in IT, if you have the desire and skills. Let's say that you are able to find an office job that "helps out" with IT. How does that really help you find a real IT job later? You'd have a hard time explaining to a future employer that you have actual IT experience. At best, you'd probably be preparing yourself for an easier entry into entry level IT. That being said, if you can get a foot in the door at a company you like and that company itself has openings, then maybe it's not a bad way to get in. But, I think you'd be better off applying for proper IT jobs.
  6. disarm

    disarm Byte Poster

    Don't emphasise the IT skills as it could put off a potential employer, after all they want someone to administrate and not be treating it as a stepping stone.

    If you do end up in an office job and have access to a little IT support/help work, then do put it down on your CV. That's what I did and it helped me get a more IT- based position further down the line. You're not going to learn lots but it may help a little.
  7. sunn

    sunn Gigabyte Poster

    It may help, but the trick will be to really emphasize how an 'ordinary' office job was able to get you experience with in the IT field.

    Without tipping off any alarms in an interview for a offic job, I'd advise getting more IT education under your belt during employment to help show where your interests are.
  8. MLP

    MLP Kilobyte Poster


    If you need the office job for financial reasons, focus on getting that first. Don't put the employer off. Once you are in and settled, then maybe get to know the IT people, and offer your assistance. Also ask them for advice - show your keen, but your not after their jobs. I took a temp. admin job as an admin assistance, and after a while, got moved to IT, so it can happen.

    If you can afford to not take it, I.e. you have a job currently, or this would be a second income for your household that you don't need, I'd concentrate on your studies and looking for an entry level IT job.

    Best of luck

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  9. drum_dude

    drum_dude Gigabyte Poster

    Personally, I would advise that you look for a job in 1st line support i.e. call logging or helpdesk. Why waste time doing anything else?
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