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Any Java experts/Programmers?

Discussion in 'Scripting & Programming' started by zimbo, Sep 23, 2006.

  1. zimbo
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    zimbo Petabyte Poster

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    Have we got any java programmers or experts on CF? im taking java in uni and i have programmed before (pascal,vb 6, c++) so i know the common lingo... i.e. i know what data types are etc i think the only thing i need to do is is learn the syntax right?
     
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  2. phonics3k

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    The Syntax is very very similar to C#,

    Thats all I can tell you soz :D
     
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  3. hbroomhall

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    If you know C++ then you will find Java easy. The main problem derives from the fact that it is *so* similar in places that the differences can be confusing!

    Harry.
     
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    so does that mean you guys are offering help? :biggrin
     
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  5. hbroomhall

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    If you are good at C++ you don't need help! <giggle>

    I'm no expert in Java - and my knowledge of the standard libraries is out-of-date as I tend not to use it much in day-to-day stuff.

    My section is supposed to use it to the exclusion of all other languages, but my boss knows my opinion of that descision!

    Harry.
     
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  6. wagnerk
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    One of the many programming languages that I had to take in Uni was Java, true while the synax is alot like C++ (and depending on which version of Java you'll be using) with the front end of VB. The thing you're going to have to get your head around will be OO. Which didn't exist in VB and wasn't necessary in C++ or pascal.

    -Ken
     
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  7. hbroomhall

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    I'm going to be controversial here, and suggest that if you didn't use the OO in C++ you were really programing in a version of C! :biggrin

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  8. wagnerk
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    Not entirely true, while C++ is suppose to be OO you can program C++ without using OO. There are other functions in C++ that aren't in C such as (but not limited to):

    1. structs don't copy in C
    2. There is no operator and function overloading in C
    3. In C storage allocation and de-allocation are not handled by new and delete but by a function called malloc

    (Ref bath uni)

    You may also want to read a fictitious interview with creator of C++ here. :D

    -Ken
     
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  9. hbroomhall

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    IMHO this would be a total waste of the language!
    Er - they do. Take this code:
    Code:
    struct sometype_t a;
    struct sometype_t b;
    /* Now put something in a */
    b = a;
    /* b now contains a copy of a */
    
    I have used that capability in C for years.
    These are trivial differences. A similar trivial difference would be the use of references.
    Words fail me. For a respectable uni to hand out stuff like that! About the only excuse I can think of is that it was nearly 10 years ago!
    I remember that one from some time back! Like all good humour there are grains of truth in it!

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    Having poked about a bit on that Bath Uni site I realize that this wasn't a programing course per-se, but an adjunct to another course. So I suppose it can be excused a bit! :biggrin

    And it used a complier that was famously poor at C++!

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  11. Jakamoko
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    I love when the minds of CF Members come together :)
     
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  12. wagnerk
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    I agree on that, all I meant was that is could be done in a non-OO way. I've done both. (By the way the non-OO way is alot longer)

    But like one of my programming tutors use to say, change 10% of any program and you have a new product :D

    Me too, if everyone had the same views/thoughts it would make this forum a little boring :D

    A discussion on C & C++, and what was the original question of this thread, ahh yes Java...

    -Ken
     
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  13. Bluerinse
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    Me too, very refreshing, even if I can't add a single informative word to the thread :oops:
     
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