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Discussion in 'A+' started by Breaker, Apr 1, 2009.

  1. Breaker

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    Hey guys

    Youll have to excuse me not doing a forum search on this, Im working on a lousy wireless connection with poor reception.

    Ive got Mike Myers all in one 6th ed and some of prof messer's vids. Do think both of these are enough to pass 601/602 and give me some well rounded knowledge? Possibly could any of you recommend further materials/book?

    Thanks
     
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  2. Metalstar

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    That is all I used for my exam but it depends on how happy you are that you know the material. I did fine in the practice tests after reading the AIO so I took the exam.
     
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  3. soundian

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    I used the Sybex book as well but that was mainly because I couldn't get my scores above borderline pass with only AIO available. I didn't find the Messer vids until round about this time as well so maybe it would've been different if I'd had them from the start.
    Always do your practice exams in simulation rather than study mode, it's only a matter of time before you memorise the answers and the practice exams become useless as a pass/fail indicator.
     
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  4. greenbrucelee
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    if you have a spare pc get PC Technician street smarts by James Pyles to practice the exercises in it like installing power supplies etc.
     
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  5. Gin

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    I am really concerned about Mike's "All-in-One Exam Guide" 6th Ed. I will be concerned about quality and usefulness of specialists who use this source and I really concerned about fact that someone can pass exam by learning from the source!

    Open the page 183 (Q/A), in the Chapter 5 - "BIOS and CMOS":

    Question:
    10. Where does Windows store device drivers?
    A. My Computer
    B. My Hardware
    C. Registry
    D. Drivers and Settings

    Answer:
    10. C. Windows stores device drivers in the Registry.

    Now, that we know that it is nonsense, in the text it is clearly stated:
    "A device driver is a file stored on the PC’s hard drive that contains all the commands necessary
    to talk to whatever device it was written to support." (p. 173)

    In the page 174: "Windows uses a special database called the registry that stores everything you want to know about your system, including the device drivers."

    More on that, same page 174:
    "BIOS, BIOS, Everywhere!... This code may reside on the system ROM on the motherboard, on ROM on a card, or in a device driver file on the hard drive loaded into RAM at boot. BIOS is everywhere on your system, and you will need to deal with it occasionally" (well, if author have in mind drivers Critical:INITIALIZE section I must upset - not every driver has real initialize section because some of devices even don't need initialization. And the rest of a driver is all that OS needs to expel full potential of device, not just Basic I/O. I can't call device driver a BIOS!)

    If you check thoroughly you can find more ambiguities or even nonsenses in the book.

    best regards to all.
     
  6. BosonMichael
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    Nothing's perfect. Still, it's enough to help you pass, as evidenced by the many people who use it to pass and can vouch for its usefulness.
     
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  7. greenbrucelee
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    People make mistakes that is why there is an errata website for this book where there errors that are in it and there are not many are corrected. Remember an author does not create thousand of copies of his/her book somebody else will and sometime that means this person has to type ot the whole thing again to make it ready for printing purposes and this is where the errors mostly occur.

    Mr Meyers is the definitive authority on the A+ he knows what he is on about.
     
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  8. Breaker

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    Your right about the registry. It’s a hierarchical database that stores information that pertains to applications and hardware devices. So pretty much like the old Autoexec.bat and config.sys functions.

    As for the BIOS issue, a driver facilitates communication between a device and the OS ,whilst BIOS will also facilitate communication between the OS and hardware. So from that point of view aren’t they similar at least?

    Thanks for the responses, at the moment I am halfway through all in one. Hopefully I can get a copy of street smarts.
     
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  9. Gin

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    I must admit - seeking perfection is endless process. But it makes me sad then in the book of all recognized "definitive authority" we can read nonsenses like that (these was only few examples). And makes my angry and laugh then some "certified" argue to death with his mislead/misinformed knowledge like: "harmonics create the humming sound that you hear from electrical components" :)

    best regards to all
     
  10. greenbrucelee
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    read my post mate, the errat page which was set up by Mr Meyers corrects those mistakes which were put in by the person ghostwriting (if thats the correct word) his book not him himself. And anyway deosn't it show your learning if you can spot the mistakes?
     
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    Seeking perfection IS an endless process... but endlessly republishing a book to fix a few errors is NOT a wise business decision, particularly when the printed book market is doing as poorly as it is at the moment.

    Have you checked the errata page to see if they've found these "errors"?

    I repeat: nobody's perfect. I'd love to follow you around for a day or two to point out your errors to give you a bit of first-hand perspective on the issue.

    Oh, the irony! :p

    What would YOU call the mechanical vibration of a component? :rolleyes:

    Don't make me break out my physics minor on ya, mate... :twisted:
     
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  12. Gin

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    Don't be fooled around. That's total misled. BIOS have nothing to do then the OS is running. That was true (only in some respect) in old days of DOS and Windows 9x. They used some functions from BIOS and that was true only in 16bit environment. Modern Windows and Ux (Linux, FreeBSD and other OS'es) completely rely on drivers and kernel. And if you know a little about servers (if don't... just for information) many of them nowadays don't have BIOS. They have EFI (Extensible Firmware Interface) - which is different approach and architecture than BIOS.
     
  13. BosonMichael
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    You think that's right? :)

    From Microsoft:

    :hhhmmm
     
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    all of the errors in the AIO are on the errata page including the ones mentioned by Gin and a couple of other like where the frequency of a type of ram was wrong.

    Like BM said the errata pages are created so thousand of books are not recalled or reprinted.
     
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  15. Gin

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    Well, Mr BosonMichael. I will not play you games. I have no intention to insult anybody, I have no offense - you can with you "physics minor" what ever you like. I gave you on real incident (now I know where from the information for that misled soul did come). And your arguments are not working, because you can see another misled soul even in this thread (sorry Mr. Breaker)
     
  16. Gin

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    Then (if your knowledge so deep) your should know what happens then OS gives a command to go in sleep or hibernate.
     
  17. greenbrucelee
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    everyone knows what BIOS is mate.

    Why don't you introduce yourself in the new members area and actually participate in the forum instead of hijacking someones post about is the AIO all that is needed and saying its crap.
     
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  18. BosonMichael
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    Ah, my knowledge isn't what's at question, here... you seem to be questioning everyone's knowledge but your own.

    Again, nobody's perfect, including you: that's the point.
     
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  19. BosonMichael
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    So from where did the "information for that misled soul" come? Didn't come from me; I didn't write the book.

    You seem to have come here on a rant.
     
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  20. Gin

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    Apparently not everyone know.
    Now I don't have an intention to introduce then I see such an attitude and arrogance (not only from you).
    I did hijacked someones post? Sorry didn't know that.
    I'm saying crap? That's your words (no offense).

    I did found a thread man asking about %subj%. I gave my opinion with examples. Now there is only his decision: look for another source or use the book and go for some thread with errata.

    Sorry and bye.
     

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